The "SE Please take this game feature from..." thread. (Constructive Feedback)

[Connor]

We actually had sub jobs in ARR - it was sort of how you unlocked advanced jobs on classes. Gladiator to 30 and conjurer to 15 unlocked Paladin. Arcanist to 30 and white mage to 15 unlocked scholar. Arcanist to 30 and black mage to 15 unlocked summoner. Etc.

(You could also cross class almost any ability as a base class in both 1.0 and ARR and they killed off that as well. No All Rounders for anyone except G'raha Tia!)

They could have done SO MUCH MORE with that system, and each of the current jobs in the game could have fed off it - GLD + BLM = DRK. Archer + conjurer = BRD. Archer + marauder = MCH. Conjurer + arcanist = AST.

I believe that they originally intended something akin to that, but scrapped it so early in development that the only way it was visible was the ghost of 30 DRK playing exactly like GLD/PLD at HW launch. They killed off the "subjob" concept for good and made Advanced Jobs instead.

Cross class abilities were removed in favor of role actions.

Anyway, I'm excited that the new Field Operations area is bringing this concept back in to some extent, with the Ephemeral Jobs. It'll be fun to see which combinations are worth using once that content releases.

I know; I was there lol.

Goddamn Yoshi-P took my Bard’s 1.0 Conjurer / Thaumaturge subjobs, swapped THM for LNC at some point just before release ( I haven’t forgotten Yoshi!), then for 2.0 full release slapped us in the face with ‘Lancer/Pugilist’. Then in HW they took our LB! They really haven’t given much in return over the years either…

Give me my spells back Yoshi! Someone out there totally needs a Cure and a Stoneskin right now! Also anyone remember Sacred Prism? Lol

[MicahZerrshia]

Bard’s 1.0

I miss 1.0's bard being more like XI's bard and having songs that are more than just flat dmg+ and being more of a actual support class. You could give mp refresh to mages, attack up to melee, debuff the mob and give the tank some extra survivability all at the same time. I was really hoping for that to be expanded beyond the 3 or 4 songs from 1.0, but nope, they just took it and made it extreeeeeemly boring because they decided to just design a ranger and not a bard.