The "SE Please take this game feature from..." thread. (Constructive Feedback)

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Game: FFXI

Feature: Subjobs

Let me use Cure and Thunder as a Bard again like I did in 1.0! Yoshi-P I double dare you to do it.

What I like about it: I enjoyed the freedom it gave players in terms of what they could contribute to the party. Plus being able to move certain abilities from one job to another is a fairly common mechanic Final Fantasy games featuring jobs.

How is differs from XIV: the sheer fact players are even allowed to make a choice is a massive difference from XIV lol. The game makes our decisions for us here

We actually had sub jobs in ARR - it was sort of how you unlocked advanced jobs on classes. Gladiator to 30 and conjurer to 15 unlocked Paladin. Arcanist to 30 and white mage to 15 unlocked scholar. Arcanist to 30 and black mage to 15 unlocked summoner. Etc.

(You could also cross class almost any ability as a base class in both 1.0 and ARR and they killed off that as well. No All Rounders for anyone except G'raha Tia!)

They could have done SO MUCH MORE with that system, and each of the current jobs in the game could have fed off it - GLD + BLM = DRK. Archer + conjurer = BRD. Archer + marauder = MCH. Conjurer + arcanist = AST.

I believe that they originally intended something akin to that, but scrapped it so early in development that the only way it was visible was the ghost of 30 DRK playing exactly like GLD/PLD at HW launch. They killed off the "subjob" concept for good and made Advanced Jobs instead.

Cross class abilities were removed in favor of role actions.

Anyway, I'm excited that the new Field Operations area is bringing this concept back in to some extent, with the Ephemeral Jobs. It'll be fun to see which combinations are worth using once that content releases.