Trust system

[Cal123]

Hi everyone was thinking about this the other day but what about implementing
Trust system for old extremes/savage many Evean old ultimates.
Or perhaps being able to do ultimate solo/undersized party’s

Just what to add that I agree that they should be for endgame and very high level content with groups but while be nice for people who missed out at time or even be able to practice before joining a raid group

Or mabe adding a expanded story mode for things like the dragon song riprised

Maybe the could be a different kind of reward for them

Thank you for your time and thoughts

[Nero-Voidstails]

no just plan no because those content are optional and ultimate should absolutely not be in the list at all they are made to test your skill. second to do such thing they will be forced to rework all of them for the NPC and remove all DPS check or heal check so no 100% shouldn't be a thing

[Cal123]

Yes poubluley for the beast that the don’t do ultimates with box I agree that they should be a challenge

[BigCheez]

I can't for the life of me understand people who pick up an MMO and then start demanding that everything be turned into singleplayer content. You can still find groups for any and all old extreme/savage/ultimate content. We don't need trusts for them and you definitely shouldn't be able to unsync ultimates.

[Ardeth]

I just want them to be of the quailty of Wow's Follower Dungeons. It's so much better in just about every way.

They have better AI. You don't have to run tanks into mobs to get them to attack. They take optimal paths and can be set to run ahead of you. They will give you visible blue arrow markers to guide you in the right way
Though that's not important since 14 is all hallway dungeons. And to top all of that off, you can play with friends as long as one of the bots is present.

They are so good it makes Trusts look embarrassing in comparison.

But also, no, stick them in story only content.

I don't do Extremes and up. Don't care either way, but it would ruin the point of them entirely. Even as a filthy casual, the point is to overcome the odds together and complete the challenge. Even with randoms, it's the same, but I would imagine less comradery. But still not a job for bots. Play Elden Ring. I promise you it will be a better single-player experience.

[Mirikh]

MMOs have always accommodated a mix of solo and group content. Duty Finder is one of the best things about FF14, but I also enjoy Trusts, and they coexist perfectly well. I don't think Ultimate would ever be Trustable (and if you want to "practice" there are websites for that). But I can imagine enjoying the Eden raid with Thancred and Urianger, which at this point is almost all (nearly? just assuming) soloable in any case, or even the newer raids. Making content Trust enabled allows them to better control difficulty over time. It was disconcerting to spend 3 hours preparing to fight Titan only to have him die in 10 seconds in Duty Finder. Or the infamous Praetorium/Castrum instances which are now infinitely improved as well.

[Hallarem]

Honestly. For anxiety issues that are very common nowadays. There should be an toggle button for hiding other players.
I think that is honestly the way.

Trusts all the way.

[OlafQuintessa]

I'm not sure really. Having trusts for more trials and other difficult content is a great idea, although not for ultimate. There should still be challenges you have to overcome with a group of people. Learning old ex and savage synced (and unreal for that matter) - I agree it's painful trying to find groups for that on quiet DCs. However they are quite good to do unsync and can be completed with various group sizes - sometimes there are still mechanics to think about to make it interesting too - so are trusts really necessary for that after all?

Perhaps the best solution would be to expand trusts to EX and savage, but only on low pop servers like Materia.

[ZXN]

I'm gonna have to lean towards no for this. Extremes/Savages/Ultimates are...well, optional, and not everything needs to be made into a single player experience in an MMO. Ultimates, even the old ones, are the biggest tests of a players' skill, so they shouldn't be able to be done unsynced. As for Extremes/Savages with trusts, they would have to overhaul any DPS/Heal checks those fights would have to make them always do-able by bots, alongside making it so all the bots are guaranteed to successfully resolve every mechanics so the fight would even be clearable to begin with. A trust system for these would probably become the preferred way to do any Extreme/Savage/Ultimate if that was the case given it'd just be easier to do these with 7 bots that will be guaranteed to clear the fights as long as you resolve the mechanics yourself successfully, especially if you would still get the clear rewards for doing so. Trusts for the mid-core/endgame content would take away a lot of the experience these fights give players as well as the achievement of overcoming greater and greater challenges with a bunch of friends/other players.

[MsMisato]

I just want them to be of the quailty of Wow's Follower Dungeons. It's so much better in just about every way.

They have better AI. You don't have to run tanks into mobs to get them to attack. They take optimal paths and can be set to run ahead of you. They will give you visible blue arrow markers to guide you in the right way
Though that's not important since 14 is all hallway dungeons. And to top all of that off, you can play with friends as long as one of the bots is present.

They are so good it makes Trusts look embarrassing in comparison.

But also, no, stick them in story only content.

I don't do Extremes and up. Don't care either way, but it would ruin the point of them entirely. Even as a filthy casual, the point is to overcome the odds together and complete the challenge. Even with randoms, it's the same, but I would imagine less comradery. But still not a job for bots. Play Elden Ring. I promise you it will be a better single-player experience.

i was going to say this and even the FFXI trust system was a bit better because even though it was a different system you can combo and burst off the FFXI trust system and choose and pick your npc trust from a swath of collected trust not just a predetermined set.