Raiders, why do you consider raiding just not memory games ?

[TaleraRistain]

Whether the OP raids or not (a forum profile tells you nothing unless people actually show their main), I have myself raided since SB and do agree with the base statement. There is nothing exciting in raiding, savage or ultimates, or criterion. Perhaps in the past we could at least find some manner of satisfaction in our jobs and mastering the actual management that came out of it, and even before SB have actual encounters with things to juggle through that weren't just binary body check DDR puzzles, but that's not the case anymore and hasn't been since SB/ShB.

If the idea is that some raiders have explained what they find enjoyable about it, then I vehemently disagree with them, and I'm not the only one here. But ultimately it's about tastes right? However I do think a lot of the points being raised are objective flaws of the system, whether one likes it or not.

They say it in their post which is the only reason I mentioned it.

My raiding firsthand experience only goes as high as knowing the mechanics well of DT EX3 as SMN, and having only just cleared P4S with echo. (I didn't bother trying to farm EX3 as my PF experience was a nightmare) however my friends who I chat with often range from savage clear to all ultimate's cleared to elitists.