Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
It's perfectly valid to not like how something changed and state that, but that's not what the OP is saying. The OP doesn't even do raids. The OP is looking at raiding, saying it's just a memory game that could be botted, and basically going why do you do it. So raiders in the thread explained what can be enjoyable about it. People can certainly say they don't enjoy that and why and ask SE to adjust things. And SE can either listen or continue on their course. Things change and sometimes we just have to deal with that. I lost my ARR and HW style relic questlines that I loved doing when they started getting tied to field content. I stopped doing relics as much because of it. It sucks, and I still give feedback about it to SE. I'll probably never get that back. I don't go screaming at people that like field content that they ruined relics for me, even thought they LOVE to blame anyone who doesn't like field content for why we didn't get it for an expansion. I blame SE and their decisions since they are the ones in control of that.
Whether the OP raids or not (a forum profile tells you nothing unless people actually show their main), I have myself raided since SB and do agree with the base statement. There is nothing exciting in raiding, savage or ultimates, or criterion. Perhaps in the past we could at least find some manner of satisfaction in our jobs and mastering the actual management that came out of it, and even before SB have actual encounters with things to juggle through that weren't just binary body check DDR puzzles, but that's not the case anymore and hasn't been since SB/ShB.

If the idea is that some raiders have explained what they find enjoyable about it, then I vehemently disagree with them, and I'm not the only one here. But ultimately it's about tastes right? However I do think a lot of the points being raised are objective flaws of the system, whether one likes it or not.