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    Quote Originally Posted by KillaKilala View Post
    I didn’t play wow that much but can talk about the dungeons. First of all you have multiple routes in every dungeon and can sometimes skip rooms and bosses if you don’t need their loot. You can decide how much enemies you want to pull, who takes aggro, who do what. The enemies are dungeons and if you die you lose exp points and have to run back to the dungeon which you don’t want to so you fight for your life, while if xiv you just restart and this bullshit’s considered QoL, it’s not it just makes me to not care about the mechanics. You have locked rooms and to open them you need to farm keys, or buy them or ask other players to open these doors for you. You can decide how much people you wanna go with, you can even clear some rooms solo even if you’re low level. None of this is scripted these are real interactions when you aren’t forced to do anything, when you can decide on your own how you want to clear the dungeon.
    You don't play much Wow yet to puke every argument you saw previously in this forum about how somehow WoW is the Jesus FF14 needs.

    Do you even read what you type before you hit enter? You are disingenuous with your arguments like most people complaining for only the sake of complaining and nothing else.

    FF14 was NEVER the game you are crying about at any point or if it was, they moved away from it for a good reason and they will never come back to it as it will make 0 sense to do it.


    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    Are you saying this in the absolute sense, because if so it's actually very easy to have infinite variation.
    That's why you are here typing nonsense instead of coding.
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    I also want the guy with 50 forum alts to tell us about how naels phase is random
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
    The sequence of attacks and debuffs resolving is always the same
    Nael phase's randomness doesn't come from mechanic order lmao it comes from random targeting. This can significantly alter your rotation on (old) casters for instance, back when they actually had cast times. It makes every encounter with Nael different because you cannot execute the same fixed rotation again and again and expect to succeed. That phase is also one of the few places in the game where tank positioning subtly matters as mechanics can go on the main tank and flank/rear exposal is not guaranteed with a bad tank.

    If you're insisting that this isn't truly random either thanks for doing my job because everything else in FF14 is even more scripted. Like I'm trying to come up with a somewhat positive take on a fight in this game. But guess not!

    Actually, I get it now; because you struggle with doing your rotation in Savage fights you're probably mixing up your rotation every single pull so every new pull feels new to you because you have no idea what you're doing anyways. So the rotational changes in Nael is just a daily occurrence for you. LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red-thunder View Post
    Nael phase's randomness doesn't come from mechanic order lmao it comes from random targeting. This can significantly alter your rotation on (old) casters for instance, back when they actually had cast times. It makes every encounter with Nael different because you cannot execute the same fixed rotation again and again and expect to succeed. That phase is also one of the few places in the game where tank positioning subtly matters as mechanics can go on the main tank and flank/rear exposal is not guaranteed with a bad tank.
    Yeah, thanks for clarifying that you are just a poser. "someone gets a mechanic and cannot do their fixed rotation, hence the fight is incredibly random" is an even dumber take than your "mechanics and rotation are the same" take from before. As if melees don't have to regularly disengage to properly resolve mechanics (it's why high parses become very synthetic the moment parse runs start). Heck, with your complete lack of logic, Twin phase before is even more random.

    Quote Originally Posted by Red-thunder View Post
    If you're insisting that this isn't truly random either thanks for doing my job because everything else in FF14 is even more scripted.
    In other words, we can agree that this guy, was full of horse manure:

    Quote Originally Posted by Red-thunder View Post
    The only exceptions are legitimately random fights like Nael phase or legitimately random jobs like old BLM.


    Quote Originally Posted by Red-thunder View Post
    Actually, I get it now; because you struggle with doing your rotation in Savage fights you're probably mixing up your rotation every single pull so every new pull feels new to you because you have no idea what you're doing anyways. So the rotational changes in Nael is just a daily occurrence for you. LMAO
    The dumbest thing about your dumb takes is, that everyone can easily look up how I am doing. While you are just a poser hiding behind an alt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
    The dumbest thing about your dumb takes is, that everyone can easily look up how I am doing. While you are just a poser hiding behind an alt.
    You're really emotional after being called out but that's my bad because I shouldn't even have said anything since you literally don't even have a UCOB clear.

    I don't really need to hide, everyone knows Skiros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    True empathy is going above indifference by putting people out of their misery, got it.
    As I said, large portion of this player base has completely lost track of what's important in life. Your rhetoric alone is unbelievably crass considering we are talking about a video game, for which some people report incredible discomfort playing it. Yes, the correct and healthy way to go about such a state of being, is not playing this game. Video game addiction is a serious issue with hard real life repercussions, not some funny haha joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    It just had a certain karmic irony to it. There is always a bigger fish somewhere ready to tell you to get better or leave the game because you're wasting their time.
    You conclude that, because you are making it all up, instead of comprehending the points I am actually make. If someone is legit struggling with the easiest of easiest content, then yes, there does come a point where it becomes reasonable to ask if this is even the correct activity for this person. Especially if playing the game causes that person to experience strong discomfort. This game is an entertainment product, after all. If you think that is the same as our "you don't have pink parses, therefore I won't even clarify my own word vomit" clown, then that's simply your personal failure. Further, be very careful with trying to legitimize such "appeal to authority" arguments, because, as you said, there is always a bigger fish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
    "appeal to authority"
    At least I know what I'm talking about. Where's your UCOB clear?

    Literally why are you even butting into a conversation about Nael phase if you haven't even touched UCOB? Lol??

    Why are you telling casual players they aren't good enough lol? My god your post history is just cringe seeing as you're literally a EW baby. What would you know about the homogenization and lack of innovation in this game? You have no perspective. You literally don't have a frame of reference from the past.

    Genuinely, log off and chill and leave raid discussion to adults.
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    Last edited by Red-thunder; 02-16-2025 at 01:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red-thunder View Post
    At least I know what I'm talking about. Where's your UCOB clear?

    Literally why are you even butting into a conversation about Nael phase if you haven't even touched UCOB? Lol??

    Why are you telling casual players they aren't good enough lol? My god your post history is just cringe seeing as you're literally a EW baby. What would you know about the homogenization and lack of innovation in this game? You have no perspective. You literally don't have a frame of reference from the past.

    Genuinely, log off and chill and leave raid discussion to adults.
    As I said before:

    Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
    The dumbest thing about your dumb takes is, that everyone can easily look up how I am doing. While you are just a poser hiding behind an alt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
    As I said before:
    No retort anymore huh? I told you who I am. Anyone can look up my achievements. And we can also easily look up your character and see that you haven't got a UCOB clear.

    I know you're backed into a corner and for the first time someone is giving you a taste of your own medicine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    That's why you are here typing nonsense instead of coding.
    If anything was nonsense you didn't explain it. I made sure to ask about the context in which we were considering the idea because while it's very easy in the abstract sense there are more considerations and limitations to take into account in practice, and even more if we're trying to add it to an existing product like FF14. Still nowhere near impossible though.
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