Raiders, why do you consider raiding just not memory games ?

[Red-thunder]

I treat them like sheets of music.
Once you learn it and do it enough times you can perform without needing to refer to the sheet. I suppose variation could be seen in the form of being able to recover from mishaps and human error related stuff.

Yeah I mean 99% of people don't like practicing for a piano recital. It's insanely boring.

[AllenThyl]

Considering that they are almost always fatal to the entire party, it is not surprising that they will never go beyond the niche of optional/low-popular content.[/COLOR]

High-end combat duties are not niche content. We are talking about 15-25% of the player base here.

Because you're obviously here to defend FF14 raiding as somehow requiring a big brain and in the process exposes yourself as not actually understanding how to raid.

No, but I don't find it cool when people post untrue things. A healer's rotation is simply not "just" glare. Is it most of it? Sure, and the issues healer have with regards to their role are all valid. But your reductive and hyperbolic statements are simply not accurate representations of reality.

You treat mechanics and rotations as separate. That is all I need to know that you haven't actually played the real game.

tHe ReAl GaMe

The only exceptions are legitimately random fights like Nael phase or legitimately random jobs like old BLM.

Pray tell what is so "random" about Nael phase, that also doesn't qualify p8s as sufficiently random?

[Red-thunder]

Pray tell what is so "random" about Nael phase, that also doesn't qualify p8s as sufficiently random?

Look you've never done an Ultimate on patch and haven't gotten any pinks so I'm not really interested in explaining everything just for you.

Also lol if you just press dia and glare on whm, misery on cooldown you'll get an orange. For most jobs just doing your rotation correctly gives you an orange. You don't even have to care about uptime, just ABC alone is orange.

[AllenThyl]

Yeah I mean 99% of people don't like practicing for a piano recital. It's insanely boring.

You don't have many artist friends, do you?

Look you've never done an Ultimate on patch and haven't gotten any pinks so I'm not really interested in explaining everything just for you.

Also lol if you just press dia and glare on whm, misery on cooldown you'll get an orange. For most jobs just doing your rotation correctly gives you an orange. You don't even have to care about uptime, just ABC alone is orange.

Congratulations, you are the first person in this forum who I think actually deserves to have their profile pic to be turned into a clown emoji.
So you had no trouble to explain to me how "rotations and mechanics are the same" (one of the dumbest takes I have ever had the misfortune to read on this forum), but clarifying how Nael phase is actually "random" is too much to ask

I find it also very funny that you went to look up my logs and actually posted information about it in the official forum. Somehow, I have the creeping suspicion, that only one of us is hiding behind an alt

[Exmo]

You lot turn everything into a fight. Why can't you just have a conversation?

[Red-thunder]

one of the dumbest takes I have ever had the misfortune to read on this forum

Yeah I mean it's pointless to explain anything if you're not at the level to get it. It's like trying to explain quantum mechanics to a frog.

[AllenThyl]

Yeah I mean it's pointless to explain anything if you're not at the level to get it. It's like trying to explain quantum mechanics to a frog.

Best case scenario, you realized that Nael phase isn't actually as "random" as you thought it is, and are now just trying to save face, whatever there might even be left of it at this point.

[Red-thunder]

most of the people i've talked to who are interested in raiding seem to be newer to the game. i think a huge portion of them will get burned out once they realize every fight is a split healer stack, some wacky safe spot, look away, or a mechanic where you take a debuff to not die, etc.

Yeah seriously. At some point it gets tiring to tell newbies that they're only enjoying it because they have literally only done one or two tiers and don't realize how repetitive and stale it has become.

Which is fine, they deserve to enjoy the game, but these people keep butting into conversations between vets complaining that there has been no innovation in a decade. Like little bro, chill and take a back seat, the conversation doesn't even concern you.

[AllenThyl]

Yeah seriously. At some point it gets tiring to tell newbies that they're only enjoying it because they have literally only done one or two tiers and don't realize how repetitive and stale it has become.

Which is fine, they deserve to enjoy the game, but these people keep butting into conversations between vets complaining that there has been no innovation in a decade. Like little bro, chill and take a back seat, the conversation doesn't even concern you.

Still waiting for you to show how much you actually know by telling us what makes Nael phase so much more different in terms of randomness than other mechanics in the game.

But I guess it's my fault for expecting more than "just trust me bro" from a clown hiding behind an alt.

I mean, would be a shame, if someone would report you for bringing logs into this forum before you managed to give a proper answer, wouldn't it?

[Valence]

After having watched Allen crap on casuals (and the disabled), how they're bad at the game, and tell them to go play something else if they struggle with casual things for the past month, it's interesting seeing Allen being roasted in turn, in the exact same way..