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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    Certain people already knew this was going to the store since 7.1 dropped and tbh it took nobody by surprise. What surprises me is people continuing to complain npc gear is on mog store when they never have put it anywhere else
    Apathy and acceptance.

    This is the final stage of the cancer that is FF14.
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    Jeeq, I'm very well aware your a White Knight babe. I lurk on these forums enough to realise you "spread positivity" when in fact your helping the game die.

    This is a MMO where things should be played and earned to keep subs rolling. Not bought with credit cards.

    This is not a fashion show with statues that cost more than two expansions combined with an emote as a hook.

    If they want money, increase the subscription, hire more team members or move some around within square enix and give us some content with actual longevity.

    Ff14 failed in 1.0 and 2.0 promised better, it did get better however at this pace where the lodestone is crammed with Vinyl, hair styles and duty commenced with no game updates that arnt substantial. I think it's just a slap in the face to us 1.0 players who put our faith back into the team.

    And before you say it.. no an event running around talking to NPCs is not content.
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    It's just sad at this point.

    American is in the drains. SquareEnix is in the drains


    I don't know if it's just me, but there was more good will in pushing the patch up than there is releasing like 4 or 5 cash shop items while there's nothing to do. I'm just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineP View Post
    Jeeq, I'm very well aware your a White Knight babe. I lurk on these forums enough to realise you "spread positivity" when in fact your helping the game die.

    This is a MMO where things should be played and earned to keep subs rolling. Not bought with credit cards.

    This is not a fashion show with statues that cost more than two expansions combined with an emote as a hook.

    If they want money, increase the subscription, hire more team members or move some around within square enix and give us some content with actual longevity.

    Ff14 failed in 1.0 and 2.0 promised better, it did get better however at this pace where the lodestone is crammed with Vinyl, hair styles and duty commenced with no game updates that arnt substantial. I think it's just a slap in the face to us 1.0 players who put our faith back into the team.

    And before you say it.. no an event running around talking to NPCs is not content.
    You're trying to argue with a dude who flat out said that people don't have time to play games because they have to take care of 10 babies, 10 jobs and only have limited time, thats why this kind of lackluster design is good.
    If you work 14 hours a day in a coalmine while simultaneously taking care of children, maybe an MMO should not be designed for you, nor should you play one. He's the most confusing white knight on this forum by far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    It's just sad at this point.

    American is in the drains. SquareEnix is in the drains


    I don't know if it's just me, but there was more good will in pushing the patch up than there is releasing like 4 or 5 cash shop items while there's nothing to do. I'm just saying.
    I agree with this. Instead of bleeding subs they should have looked at the game and thought "wait were not retaining subs"

    Instead they are bringing out stuff that people have requested for years and on the store!

    I once kept my sub running because I wanted FF14 to thrive even if I wasn't playing. I've cancelled between patches in EW and DT because simply the passion has gone from the team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineP View Post
    I agree with this. Instead of bleeding subs they should have looked at the game and thought "wait were not retaining subs"

    Instead they are bringing out stuff that people have requested for years and on the store!

    I once kept my sub running because I wanted FF14 to thrive even if I wasn't playing. I've cancelled between patches in EW and DT because simply the passion has gone from the team.
    Their passion has been replaced by greed and apathy. This is no longer the scrappy company we all rooted for. They over toon Blizzard once and it went to their heads and we've been missing the quailty we had before it for years. It started at the embarrassing EW patches and continued until now. The game is dead. Maybe not population wise, but creatively. The drive is gone.
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    "You haven't proven that it is safe, you've (only) proved that you can't figure out how it's dangerous."

  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    Their passion has been replaced by greed and apathy. This is no longer the scrappy company we all rooted for. They over toon Blizzard once and it went to their heads and we've been missing the quailty we had before it for years. It started at the embarrassing EW patches and continued until now. The game is dead. Maybe not population wise, but creatively. The drive is gone.
    With SB, I wouldn't have agreed with this but when they started dumbing things down after SB I totally do now.

    I'm all for accessibility don't get me wrong but making ot easier for people with less complex rotations (NINs feint in SB) and less customisation (ARRs cross role) just screams to me that they are low staffed and don't want to deal with reports (from ppl who dont play meta) - because low staff.

    This is how I sadly see CBU3. They make most jobs the same so ppl don't argue and report eachother - less strain on the team. Lower workers higher profits.

    I just want something for the patch lulls, they are lucky with me - I adore dungeons.. infact that's all I do on FF to relax. I do see ppl complaints however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineP View Post
    your helping the game die.
    That's a really awful, terrible thing to say. I have no power over whether the game dies and it's really strange that you think 1 person on a forum that most people don't read has that power somehow.

    I am just saying that things should be presented politely and constructively - not just random negativity for the sake of it. In order to assist with being constructive, I present counter-points to consider.
    This is a MMO where things should be played and earned to keep subs rolling.
    I agree! However, when it concerns things like fashion or peripherals that fill up the lodestone news due to those companies contacting them to do a collab, it makes logical sense to post it in their news sections. That's all I'm saying.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hallarem View Post
    You're trying to argue with a dude who flat out said that people don't have time to play games because they have to take care of 10 babies, 10 jobs and only have limited time
    You're exaggerating. It's not rocket science:
    • 8 hours sleeping
    • Breakfast, getting ready
    • 8 hours (9-5) work or education
    • 1 hour? coming home
    • 2 hours making dinner~ varies depending if you cook/bake or just microwave
    • Maybe 2 hours to game
    • Sleep
    It's scientifically provable that most people login in the evening. It's also scientifically provable that there are increased logins at the weekend. This is obvious by the increased amounts of PFs at those hours and the increased turnout at hunt trains. Why? Because people are busy exactly as I described. It's a casual game for the majority of players.
    If you work 14 hours a day in a coalmine while simultaneously taking care of children, maybe an MMO should not be designed for you
    Then most people that play now wouldn't play. Because as is easy to prove, most people don't login during the day.
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    They are called "Business unit" for a reason and here we are....the game has changed so much in the last couple of years for me. I do not mind the odd thing on the store as it has been there a long while and I can afford to buy whatever I want from there, I do feel annoyed some things are not account wide. It is good they did the hair separate now and I am happy with the Hilda hair even though I wish it had been a reward in game.

    The game has been going downhill for me lately not much to do but I just long on do a few bits and then log off not how it used to be at all.

    The store as of late has a lot of items but I knew they where coming. I am hoping that this lack of effort is maybe something else going on like maybe a remake of FFXI or another MMO but that maybe is wishful thinking.

    I do feel the last letter was lacking there was not much at all and it seems as if they have stopped 'caring so adding things to the store to keep players interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luluna View Post
    They are called "Business unit" for a reason and here we are....the game has changed so much in the last couple of years for me. I do not mind the odd thing on the store as it has been there a long while and I can afford to buy whatever I want from there, I do feel annoyed some things are not account wide. It is good they did the hair separate now and I am happy with the Hilda hair even though I wish it had been a reward in game.

    The game has been going downhill for me lately not much to do but I just long on do a few bits and then log off not how it used to be at all.

    The store as of late has a lot of items but I knew they where coming. I am hoping that this lack of effort is maybe something else going on like maybe a remake of FFXI or another MMO but that maybe is wishful thinking.

    I do feel the last letter was lacking there was not much at all and it seems as if they have stopped 'caring so adding things to the store to keep players interested.
    I agree with you, but I have to point out that this "not showing much in the live letter" has been the usual thing for "Part 1" live letters for a long while now.
    I'm huffing that hopium like it's oxygen, waiting, HOPING to be proven wrong and go back to having fun in 7.2. But I'm jaded and tired.
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    "We can't just toggle the metadata ON like those SLOPPY, unpaid modders do, that'd clip and look bad!"
    Also Square Enix:

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