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  1. #11
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    Stop inviting random people to FC. Leave them alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    Completely agree with this. I think ARR + Hw was already incredibly generous and expanding it to include Sb sets a dangerous precedent that it will continue to be expanded. I've already met a few players who plan to stay on free trial forever and just play content whenever it's added to the trial. I really don't want this to become more common, in effect making this a F2P game that will need to be monetised as such.
    I am sorry, this argument is crazy. Giving players a free trial and expanding it is "dangerous"? Why is it so bad to let people have FREE things? This SE's biggest money maker, they aren't going to go full F2P with micro-transactions, because they already charge a sub with micro-transactions.
    Have you ever experienced the free trial? The things you can do are so limited, most people don't want to do that forever. And the ones that do, good for them! Keep playing the free things. Live those limited dreams. "Dangerous" LMAO
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    If you randomly invite me to your FC, I automatically assume your FC is garbage so you are trying to artificially pump up your numbers and your leadership is lacking.

    If you want people to join you need to make it worth ppl's time. Instead of wasting time just spamming invites, set up events, esp if you are targeting new players. Or is nothing else at least have the decency to send ppl a short and sweet /tell to let them know you are accepting members and if they want an invite or have questions they should feel free to respond.

    But if you are just spamming invites to random, esp new ppl you need to do better on all fronts as a guild leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanDragon View Post
    I am sorry, this argument is crazy. Giving players a free trial and expanding it is "dangerous"? Why is it so bad to let people have FREE things? This SE's biggest money maker, they aren't going to go full F2P with micro-transactions, because they already charge a sub with micro-transactions.
    Have you ever experienced the free trial? The things you can do are so limited, most people don't want to do that forever. And the ones that do, good for them! Keep playing the free things. Live those limited dreams. "Dangerous" LMAO
    I already explained why it's dangerous. If they continue to expand the trial, we will see an increase in "F2P" players who don't pay and just wait for content to be added to the trial. If more people start playing for free, other people will need to foot their share of the bill instead. That's how F2P works. "Free 2 Play" doesn't exist, it's just a question of how the cost is distributed.

    More people playing for free = more aggressive monetisation for everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    I already explained why it's dangerous. If they continue to expand the trial, we will see an increase in "F2P" players who don't pay and just wait for content to be added to the trial. If more people start playing for free, other people will need to foot their share of the bill instead. That's how F2P works. "Free 2 Play" doesn't exist, it's just a question of how the cost is distributed.

    More people playing for free = more aggressive monetisation for everyone else.
    Excellent bait.
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    :thinking:

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    As for the original topic, I agree; an actual symbol would help for many communicative issues. As for the derailing topic...

    Just a quick reminder that WoW allows F2P to play every expansion save for the current one, and that's with a less aggressive cash shop to boot. Point is, it doesn't hurt the game; especially since SE allows F2P accounts to buy from said cash shop for multiple things. I'd wager come next expac they'd unlock Shadowbringers too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Sato View Post
    Excellent bait.
    Not so stellar response.
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