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    How to fix ALL Housing issues.

    1. Double the amount of Wards
    2. Add a 3rd subdivision to each existing Ward
    3. Make plots MUCH cheaper (example 10k gil for small, 100k gil for medium & 500k for large).
    3b. Remove the lottery system.
    4. Make the permits Free, or a very low sum like 1000 gil.
    5. Make apartmets cheaper (example 1000 gil) and FC apartments Free.
    6. Let your alts have access to your house.
    7. Let us place Glam Dresser & Armoire inside our houses.

    Explanation of all points.
    1+2: More wards & additional subdivisions let more players get their own estate.
    3+3b: Making the plots cheaper make them more accessible for new players, and players who doesn't have much gil, and with more plots available the lottery system would become redundant.
    4+5: This just goes hand in hand with the previous points, making them cheaper would mean letting more people have access to them.
    6: Why can't MY alt use MY house? That's just silly, so instead make them account bound.
    7: I don't see the harm in having them accessible in your own house. If anything that would just be more convenient.

    Oh and replying with "It can't be done because spaghetti code" is not a valid reply, just fix the game already, get programmers & coders that are competent enough to fix these kids of issues in 2025...
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    Last edited by AstreaLove; 02-07-2025 at 07:24 AM.

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    1. Is a problematic solution. On many worlds there are an abundance of free plots, the issue is that people don't want or like them because of their location. In this respects a huge part of the issue is actually player created. As a middle-ground the Wards should be more dynamically distributed across worlds, as it is more of an issue on some worlds than others.

    2. I agree. But I think the better solution is to actually just discontinue this system. It's always an uphill battle, it needs redesigning.

    3. I don't think so, Gil has very little use in the game and is very easy to make.

    3b. Replace lottery system with what exactly? I hate RNG as much as the next guy but this combats players selling houses, so it helps ensure that there are more in circulation. Their initial attempt at combatting this was to use a randomized timer at which point you could buy the plot. All this turned it into was placard camping.

    4. I would put them at half-price. I can appreciate they can be expensive on top of buying the plot, but let's not make Gil utterly meaningless.

    5. I think apartments are affordable as is. Merely playing the game from start to finish nets you several million. Perhaps half-price on the FC rooms though.

    6. Wholly agree.

    7. Wholly agree.
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    before the lottery system RMT bots bought the houses and sold them for 50 - 250 usd they would flood the waiting Que and buy up all the houses.

    Before the lottery system griefers would let people wait for houses before relocating to the homes.

    the best thing they could do is add more wards if they added like the same amount of houses we got to the game you would have more homes than interested players.
    and shorten the wait times entry periods are 3 days and results periods are 2 days.
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    Last edited by Kahnha; 02-07-2025 at 09:01 AM.

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    How to fix ALL housing issues:

    STOP THIS

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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiTia View Post
    That in itself is a miracle and we should be grateful that we get a playable expansion or patch at all
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    The reason lockouts exist in instances is so that you don’t have people hogging every single instance a la Stormblood’s “A System Error Occurred During Event Movement” or among other things, just not having the space to house every player instance. We saw that in Endwalker in fact with how hard they were selling and couldn’t fit everyone in at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AstreaLove View Post
    Oh and replying with "It can't be done because spaghetti code" is not a valid reply, just fix the game already, get programmers & coders that are competent enough to fix these kids of issues in 2025...
    But it literally can't be done because spaghetti code. And not only that, they can't untangle the knot, they literally don't have the skill, nor the manpower to do so.

    You have a trifecta:

    No manpower, no investment

    No skill, no competency

    No will, no financial incentive, no vision

    It will NEVER be fixed. NEVER. Unsub now, quit the game, and find a better game or hobby to fill your time. CBU3 is using your money to pour into more failures like Forspoken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiTia View Post
    That in itself is a miracle and we should be grateful that we get a playable expansion or patch at all
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    The reason lockouts exist in instances is so that you don’t have people hogging every single instance a la Stormblood’s “A System Error Occurred During Event Movement” or among other things, just not having the space to house every player instance. We saw that in Endwalker in fact with how hard they were selling and couldn’t fit everyone in at the time.

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    Two the biggest issues isn't those ones.
    1. Plots are locked to a size.
    2. Item limits are so low that most houses can not be fully utilized.

    Solutions are:
    1a. they can make all plots scale vs amount of gil you spend. Small 3mil, Medium 10mil, Large 30mil, Extra Large 60mil.(Allow you to start at the size you want by paying the starting fee for that size then upgrade at anytime to other ones for the gil difference on next one.)
    1b. Make sizes Small, Medium, Large, Extra Large.
    2. Make item limits for inside Small=500, Medium=800, Large=1200, Extra Large=1500. For outside Small=100, Medium=150, Large=200, Extra Large=250.
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    1. Not happening. The Wards are permanently loaded in, more Wards means more strain on the servers, and they're already getting rammed as it is.

    2. See above.

    3a. Would make the shortage infinitely worse. 3 million gil isn't impossible to save up if you play consistently, and a fairly trivial amount if you actively craft.

    3b. The lottery is vastly better than every other iteration before it, where you could be cheated out of a house by placard bots, or cursed with slow internet and lose your FCFS plot because you didn't load in quickly enough. Losing to RNG sucks, I know the feeling, it's why the best time to get a house is in the first wave of new plots, as there's minimal competition.

    4. I can agree with this. Someone who pays 3 million should have the plot, permit and all.

    5. Apartments should be more expensive if anything given their permanence, but I agree that FC rooms should be cheaper. 200k is probably the ideal amount.

    6. Probably technical issues preventing this, but I agree.

    7. Not happening unfortunately. Devs tried implementing this, and it literally crashed the entire test server when someone moved the glamour dresser whilst it was being used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HunkyMarauder View Post
    But it literally can't be done because spaghetti code.
    I'm tired of the spaghetti code argument. It hasn't been a valid argument in years. They CAN fix the code, and they have, because otherwise we wouldn't be getting QOL updates like being able to use glamour plates in sanctuaries outside of town or an overhaul of the blacklist system (which has its own problems, tbf, but my point stands). They do absolutely have the manpower and the skill to bring the code up to snuff. They just choose not to. WHY they choose not to is debatable whether or not it's a valid argument, but to say that they CAN'T is misguided at best, and willfully ignorant at worst.

    ETA: also, it's unreasonable in the extreme to expect a development team to not work on other games, lmao.
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    Last edited by glitteringcosmos; 02-07-2025 at 09:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glitteringcosmos View Post
    I'm tired of the spaghetti code argument. It hasn't been a valid argument in years. They CAN fix the code, and they have, because otherwise we wouldn't be getting QOL updates like being able to use glamour plates in sanctuaries outside of town or an overhaul of the blacklist system (which has its own problems, tbf, but my point stands). They do absolutely have the manpower and the skill to bring the code up to snuff. They just choose not to. WHY they choose not to is debatable whether or not it's a valid argument, but to say that they CAN'T is misguided at best, and willfully ignorant at worst.

    ETA: also, it's unreasonable in the extreme to expect a development team to not work on other games, lmao.
    You realize most AAA studios only work on a max of 2 games at a time? Lmao?

    The WoW studio only works on WoW. The Destiny studio only works on Destiny. Overwatch team only works on Overwatch. Sure within each company there is some crossover depending on labor demand but you're being naive if you don't think Yoshi P and SE are intentionally stretching CBU3 thin to maximize what they can squeeze out of the team to maximize profits.

    And no, they cannot fix it because they don't have the manpower. The senior team is all working on other games. They left a skeleton crew in charge of FF14.
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    Funny how recently WoW had a housing article earlier this week and stated in it, "If you want a house, you can have a house. No exorbitant requirements or high purchase costs, no lotteries, and no onerous upkeep (and if your subscription lapses, don't worry, your house doesn't get repossessed!)". Which certainly a shot at 14, the dev team really need to figure something out at this point.
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