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  1. #91
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    Velthice's Avatar
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    Ozzie Nyandias
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    This sure is a lot of pages dedicated to a puritanical, pearl-clutching non-issue...
    That's because people haven't learned to stop engaging with concern trolling and just call it out for what it is

    It's used all the time, by generally unaffected parties to try and force their worldview on everyone else, and they usually bring up children, because WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN (they have no children) is used as a shield of plausible deniability to defend the stupidest takes

    Woman too sexy in video game? Cover her up! Won't somebody think of the children?
    Book talking about gay stuff? Ban it! Won't somebody think of the children?

    And you can see how effective it is in this thread
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meifala View Post
    The front facing part of the community is not ERP. You might be noticing it cause you're annoyed by it but I'd hardly say that's the MOST prominent part of the community. The playerbase total has increased so more people are doing MORE of everything.

    There is no optimization discussion outside of very small corners for certain fights because 2 minute meta killed pretty much all optimization discussions. Once the initial rotation numbers are crunched, that's it.

    The culture is different because there are more people affecting it. I'm not claiming it's exactly the same, I never claimed that. I SAID that the parts of the game you seem to be bemoaning STILL exists. The ERP/RP/Nightclub stuff STILL exists too. It all has been existent in this game for a long long long ass time. Just cause you see more nightclub ads cause there's more people so more nightclubs doesn't mean the ENTIRE GAME CULTURE has shifted into only ERP.
    Lol just check ff14 Twitter and scroll. See how fast you find some NSFW commission art. Now scroll until the heat death of the universe and see if you'll even see more than one and a half opti tweets.

    Don't try to cope that Twitter isn't front facing. It's literally the only thing SE uses outside of OF and Lodestone.
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  3. #93
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    Meifala's Avatar
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    Vixiana Haruspex
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Red-thunder View Post
    Lol just check ff14 Twitter and scroll. See how fast you find some NSFW commission art. Now scroll until the heat death of the universe and see if you'll even see more than one and a half opti tweets.

    Don't try to cope that Twitter isn't front facing. It's literally the only thing SE uses outside of OF and Lodestone.
    There's a ton of discussion and non-nsfw stuff on twitter about xiv. Not necessarily optimization, because as we both agreed there's not much these days to discuss.

    But I do see art, lore discussions, memes, and tons of gposes that aren't NSFW. If anything, I think this just speaks more to your twitter algorithm than anything if all you're seeing is NSFW.
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  4. #94
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    Zakuyia Shizyuie
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    Bruh best thing for you to do is just ignore it move on XD it will save u in a long run.
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    You open the door theres nothing in sight. You close the door wondering whats in sight. But lets be honest its probably gonna just let you down.

  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meifala View Post
    There's a ton of discussion and non-nsfw stuff on twitter about xiv. Not necessarily optimization, because as we both agreed there's not much these days to discuss.

    But I do see art, lore discussions, memes, and tons of gposes that aren't NSFW. If anything, I think this just speaks more to your twitter algorithm than anything if all you're seeing is NSFW.
    I'm not saying all of it is NSFW. I'm saying on a brand new account if you scroll FF14 Twitter you'll see NSFW commissions and people with (18) in their profile name within half a minute. And once you see it it's very hard not to notice that these (18) people are everywhere even if they aren't talking about NSFW.
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  6. #96
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    Hallarem Aurealis
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaoSen View Post
    While I don't think all users of the plugins are bad either, I have seen the effect over time of them change how the entire social landscape I've known for years works as the plugins allow for a more... intense... experience, be it clothing or animation.
    An exponential increase in degeneracy as well as an actual dependence of plugins to the level of "I'd quit if mods got taken away" being quite a common thing to see a person say, a club discord that has both SFW and NSFW gallery's you'll generally see interaction in reaction be extremely slim in SFW and rather high in NSFW.

    I completely stopped going to venues as a result of this and just dialled up my content focus, now I have no content that I enjoy left until 7.2
    I'm pretty sure mod users wouldn't have much to stand on except degeneracy if SE actually released QoL and improved their game, and gave more character customization options. Hell, who knows how long they will hold a simple thing like chat bubbles hostage for before they release it.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    Thousands of players are attending these events, and tenfold more the number of those who are using the related plugins (You know the ones), many of which are considering these activities to be the endgame for them, or the main hobby and activity to do inside.

    Why SE doesn't do anything about it? It's simple, because if they do then the player count will significantly drop, maybe even signal the FF14 exodus and the beginning of the end.
    Way to go on a hyperbole.
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  8. #98
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaoSen View Post
    While I don't think all users of the plugins are bad either, I have seen the effect over time of them change how the entire social landscape I've known for years works as the plugins allow for a more... intense... experience, be it clothing or animation.
    An exponential increase in degeneracy as well as an actual dependence of plugins to the level of "I'd quit if mods got taken away" being quite a common thing to see a person say, a club discord that has both SFW and NSFW gallery's you'll generally see interaction in reaction be extremely slim in SFW and rather high in NSFW.

    I completely stopped going to venues as a result of this and just dialled up my content focus, now I have no content that I enjoy left until 7.2
    I don't go to venue at all I often do open world RP or like one venue I go too because fight club! and most of the people who attend want it to be more friendly toward the people not using such things. I don't say everywhere is good but the more we go the more it get worst they even have corn animation and replace all RP with emote that sadden me ;-;
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  9. #99
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    Vixiana Haruspex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red-thunder View Post
    I'm not saying all of it is NSFW. I'm saying on a brand new account if you scroll FF14 Twitter you'll see NSFW commissions and people with (18) in their profile name within half a minute. And once you see it it's very hard not to notice that these (18) people are everywhere even if they aren't talking about NSFW.
    That's the Internet for you. There's people like that in every corner of every interest online.
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  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockworks View Post
    "I came back because of the live letter" lmao.

    It's okay to not be able to quit the game because you're addicted to it or just too attached, just admit it.
    Cc: Allen (you were basically right too)

    Well. You won. Coming back for the live letter was dumb. I cancelled my sub again. The social opportunity collapsed (game's fault) and so there is still nothing to do. Something might crop up in the remaining days but we only made it about 10 days, and now I'm bored of helping with EX3s for no reward. So this does not look good. I thought with a positive attitude the opportunities might arise but it's wishful thinking. A positive attitude isn't enough. I need to play mind games with myself instead, and I just can't.
    Like I say we'll see. But...
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