FF14 player count reached the lowest point in 4 years. We lost 75% of the playerbase.

[Sani2341]

I’m amazed that people don’t see how “forums only seem to have energy when stupid controversy borne of squares awful decision making comes around” isn’t just a massive red flag in it of itself

And I’m one of the “manic” poster exmo would be describing, even I barely care anymore

Yeah

When even was one of the casual threads up on the front Page? Think the whole 'show your X race glam' threads, or tales from DF, etc. Stuff that's normal Forum chitchat not complaints.

[Exmo]

Not everyone who complains is a whinger.
If you get defensive at the thought that you might be a whinger, you might be a whinger.
I said the forums were manic, not people were manic. Deliberately misreading simple sentences uncharitably makes you look like a total thorn.

[All_Nonsense]

I said the forums were manic, not people were manic. Deliberately misreading simple sentences uncharitably makes you look like a total thorn.

At its core the forum itself is literally a platform with some degree of hierarchical structure that organizes different sets of data in a database. Hosted on a website. It is incapable of taking on behaviors and personality traits such as "mania" by its very nature because those are behaviors that only biological life is capable of performing at this current time. This logically leads one to a singular conclusion: When one references the forum in such a way that they're describing its "behaviors" or "personality," they are inherently discussing the people who create the data stored in the database (such as posts, go figure). It's actually the most charitable and honest interpretation someone can naturally derive.

idk what kind of pseudo logic you're using to deflect here but it's not doing much for me, sorry.

[BlisteringFrost]

At its core the forum itself is literally a platform with some degree of hierarchical structure that organizes different sets of data in a database. Hosted on a website. It is incapable of taking on behaviors and personality traits such as "mania" by its very nature because those are behaviors that only biological life is capable of performing at this current time. This logically leads one to a singular conclusion: When one references the forum in such a way that they're describing its "behaviors" or "personality," they are inherently discussing the people who create the data stored in the database (such as posts, go figure). It's actually the most charitable and honest interpretation someone can naturally derive.

idk what kind of pseudo logic you're using to deflect here but it's not doing much for me, sorry.

Post History is a crazy thing.

[Elephantality]

I said the forums were manic, not people were manic. Deliberately misreading simple sentences uncharitably makes you look like a total thorn.

I would take manic to mean forums being active, if that's not your meaning I think it would be a good idea to clarify and go from there.

[Exmo]

I would take manic to mean forums being active, if that's not your meaning I think it would be a good idea to clarify and go from there.

Yep that's the intended meaning. It's conventional usage and is clear from the context on the conversation. But I don't think some others here care. It's not a case of misunderstanding, they're just being belligerent.

[RedLolly]

Yep that's the intended meaning. It's conventional usage and is clear from the context on the conversation. But I don't think some others here care. It's not a case of misunderstanding, they're just being belligerent.

Certain sections remain active. I'm really bummed to see the Lore section of the forum being so slow. There just wasn't anything in Dawntrail that sparked discussion or research. It was just "DT bad" and now that we're moving to the next era it's quiet.

[Halivel]

Certain sections remain active. I'm really bummed to see the Lore section of the forum being so slow. There just wasn't anything in Dawntrail that sparked discussion or research. It was just "DT bad" and now that we're moving to the next era it's quiet.

Part of the problem is that sections like Lore tend to have a relatively narrow set of players being active there in the first place, and if they're currently on break or left the game, the sub-forum will become more stagnant. There's also the matter of some threads that should have been posted in Lore being posted in General instead, because some users can't be bothered to check the sub-forums and General is simply the most active by far so they go here by default.

So it's not really a DT issue specifically, although it is more noticeable in this expansion due to the overall lower amount of players.

[Supersnow845]

Can we get a definition of “who complains but is not a whiner”

Because from previous interactions with you it seems like that definition starts and stops at “complains about thing I decide are allowed to be complained about” given you’ve called people whiners before who are providing detailed arguments about their problems simply because you didn’t like the stance they took

[bic12]

y do ppl keep falling for exmo's ragebait : wilted_rose: