FF14 player count reached the lowest point in 4 years. We lost 75% of the playerbase.

[FudoMyoo]

PleaSSsseeeee ...... wait till you see the server merger than panic ok? lol

[Gurgeh]

Can someone, with figures and references to original data, please explain the *75%* in the title of this thread?

I'm looking at the OP, and I'm not seeing that.
I consider the 'population' to be the 'average' population excluding patch peaks. The average seems from those figures, pretty unchanged.
I'm starting to think the biggest problem is that we have 'way' more servers and DCs, and the population has shrunk as much as it's grown, ie it hasn't grown. Leading to hollowed thin spread communities.

[OliverQ]

Can someone, with figures and references to original data, please explain the *75%* in the title of this thread?

I'm looking at the OP, and I'm not seeing that.
I consider the 'population' to be the 'average' population excluding patch peaks. The average seems from those figures, pretty unchanged.
I'm starting to think the biggest problem is that we have 'way' more servers and DCs, and the population has shrunk as much as it's grown, ie it hasn't grown. Leading to hollowed thin spread communities.

Seems to be based on the last chart the OP posted. May of last year was 91,000 players. This month is down to 22,000. But are those only Steam accounts? Doesn't say.

[Striker44]

Seems to be based on the last chart the OP posted. May of last year was 91,000 players. This month is down to 22,000. But are those only Steam accounts? Doesn't say.

It's Steam accounts only, and it's going off of the "peak" number of logins, meaning the single highest (and most anomalous) data point. If you look at the average daily logins per month, you'll see that DT is in virtually the same exact place ShB was, and significantly better than EW. At the 8-month mark, DT has seen its average Steam login drop by 40%, compared to 39% for ShB and 49% for EW. Basically, they're cherry-picking numbers to suit their agenda because the more accurate data shows nothing out of the ordinary is actually occurring.

[BigCheez]

It's Steam accounts only, and it's going off of the "peak" number of logins, meaning the single highest (and most anomalous) data point. If you look at the average daily logins per month, you'll see that DT is in virtually the same exact place ShB was, and significantly better than EW. At the 8-month mark, DT has seen its average Steam login drop by 40%, compared to 39% for ShB and 49% for EW. Basically, they're cherry-picking numbers to suit their agenda because the more accurate data shows nothing out of the ordinary is actually occurring.

No.

Every expansion saw growth between x.0 and pre-x.1 censuses.

SB 663k -> 830k
ShB 943k -> 1.2m
EW 1.3m -> 1.7m
DT 1.4m -> 1.1m

In terms of player retention (x.0 peak numbers vs x.1 peak numbers), every patch saw about 45% of initial playerbase returning to x.1 patch, but in case of DT, only 39% returned for 6.1.

|| || |pre x.1| post x.1|Result|
|DT |-290k | -147k |-437k|
|EW|+354k| -369k |-14k|
|ShB |+242k| -221k |+20k|
|SB|+167k| -5k |+162k|

It is likely FFXIV will fall under 1 million active players soon, going under pre-Shadowbringers level.

Comparison data from WaltzForLilly

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...low-1-million/

...And claiming cherry picking is legitimately insane because Lucky Bancho is notorious for cherry picking numbers that are favourable for SE. These Dt numbers were taken during a free login campaign, for example.

[EliaStormblade]

It's Steam accounts only, and it's going off of the "peak" number of logins, meaning the single highest (and most anomalous) data point. If you look at the average daily logins per month, you'll see that DT is in virtually the same exact place ShB was, and significantly better than EW. At the 8-month mark, DT has seen its average Steam login drop by 40%, compared to 39% for ShB and 49% for EW. Basically, they're cherry-picking numbers to suit their agenda because the more accurate data shows nothing out of the ordinary is actually occurring.

I mean... it's a titanmen thread. What do you really expect? Hopefully not good faith takes.

[Clockworks]

I mean... it's a titanmen thread. What do you really expect? Hopefully not good faith takes.

It's okay to not know anything about statistics dont worry, people wont hold it agaisnt you

[Araxes]

Its not surprising. My wife and i WANT to play but we just have nothing to do. The only reason i stay subbed is nostalgia and my House.

[Saraide]

It feels like there's just a lack of vision and confidence. The viper changes literally no one asked for not even a week after launch were quite emblematic for it.