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    Cut the ability to queue as a group in Frontline

    You know, I think it's nice that SE is trying to improve the Frontline experience by adding more abilities exclusive to that mode. But it will still be a terrible experience. Here is the thing that will make it better:

    Prevent people from queuing as a group.

    I used to think it was just overpowered abilities like Salted Earth (which still needs to be changed/removed), but there are few things more demoralizing than finding a whole gaggle of 4 or even 8 people, all with BH4/BH5, and getting steamrolled whenever you even try to approach them. At that point it's easy to just throw your hands up and admit defeat.

    I know a lot of people try to say that Frontline is too chaotic and that you shouldn't care so much about the outcome, but I'm sorry. When SE adds several mounts that are tied to getting 1st place hundreds of times, you can't tell me to not care.
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    I agree
    I made a thread asking for either banning premades in Frontline or only matching premades against other premades - https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ontline-please
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    No. PvP shouldn’t be a lonely experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silaryn View Post
    No. PvP shouldn’t be a lonely experience.
    It wouldn't be a lonely experience. You can always queue at the same time as your friends. You can either work together with friends or go against them. It would work the exact same way as CC.
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    Last edited by Wilford111; 02-09-2025 at 03:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilford111 View Post
    You know, I think it's nice that SE is trying to improve the Frontline experience by adding more abilities exclusive to that mode.
    Does Fronmtline have something Crystalline Conflict doesn't?
    Because if you don't want to put up with premades, there's the PvP for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Does Fronmtline have something Crystalline Conflict doesn't?
    Because if you don't want to put up with premades, there's the PvP for you.
    Unfortunately, half the mounts I don't own are only attainable from Frontline, no other pvp mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilford111 View Post
    Unfortunately, half the mounts I don't own are only attainable from Frontline, no other pvp mode.
    Yeah I feel that. They have some nifty mounts.
    I do wish more people were motivated to win for them.
    But I don't think culling the premade party option is a good idea still. I think it's good friends can play together.
    My suggestion then is to fight fire with fire and find your own premade.
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    No. Incentivize the playerbase to win. Reward individual effort, not just showing up to participate. Y'all don't even realize the majority of the time that a premade is present because it's just FC mates or friends kicking back together. What you're all salty about is better players. They wouldn't nearly be as effective as they are if most of the players in Frontline weren't only there for the participation EXP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreus View Post
    No. Incentivize the playerbase to win. Reward individual effort, not just showing up to participate.
    Unfortunately duty roulette content is made with the opposite mentality in mind, and Frontlines is roulette content.

    And even then, if you care about winning then you’d care about how premades will have an advantage because of better coordination and communication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voryn View Post

    And even then, if you care about winning then you’d care about how premades will have an advantage because of better coordination and communication.
    If you cared about winning, you could also just find a group of players who also want to do that and form a premade.

    I still just find it laughable that in a game of 72 players, the problem is somehow the 4 players that want to play together.
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