Cut the ability to queue as a group in Frontline

[Mawlzy]

What would help is getting rid of the ability to check whos on the enemy team via macros, maybe offering built in duty support for shot calling so its more digestible to those who don't wan to hear a thousand sound effect macros (I personally took sound off of a lot of my macros), what would help frontlines is reducing some of the cc and getting rid of zant instead of saying its just a player skill issue when half the classes have a lot of aoe focused abilities...

Thanks for doing this. The number of commanders on Aether who are getting tuned out (literally and figuratively) because of the excessive noise they make is growing rapidly.

[Sunhwapark]

built in duty support for shot calling

Would be cool, plus a better way to inform players of nodes or something to do with the map so that it's easier/clearer to see that kind of information.

[Wilford111]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG43f1KkAWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3oSIdIz0Ps

This is blatantly unacceptable. This is not about "skill issue" or whatever. This is about 4-8 people all in their own group ruining Frontline for everyone else. There is a clear difference between your party not being good enough on an individual level, and 8 people who do this all the time, all ganging up and stomping on everyone else.

Does this sort of thing not happen in Japan? It would explain the problem lasting for so long...

[Aravell]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG43f1KkAWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3oSIdIz0Ps

This is blatantly unacceptable. This is not about "skill issue" or whatever. This is about 4-8 people all in their own group ruining Frontline for everyone else. There is a clear difference between your party not being good enough on an individual level, and 8 people who do this all the time, all ganging up and stomping on everyone else.

Does this sort of thing not happen in Japan? It would explain the problem lasting for so long...

That 1st video is 100% a skill issue. I didn't see any charm, guard break or fear, people just didn't guard and just tried to run out while being dragged around by DRKs. The 2nd video at least has a charm from the DNC to stop people from running.

Also, people have stopped really using this strat in JP FL because it has become a lot more ineffective as people learn how to play around it. It's mostly just SAM/SMN spam on JP nowadays.

[IceEyes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG43f1KkAWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3oSIdIz0Ps
This is blatantly unacceptable. This is not about "skill issue" or whatever.

You are burying yourself by providing such "proofs".

First vid, u play greedy and didnt try preventy heal even yourself, so are you drowning in AoE spam. No guards. No fears. No any counterplay, like spreading to not be pulled. The death of all the players is solely the fault of the players themselves, who are licking the ice afk.

Second vid, same situation, but afk zerg was charmed by aggressive red team what playing with full bh.

This happens even without premades, when many players who are interested in winning, fun are thrown into one team. With premades this happens more often and more effectively. Moreover, most solo players (like me) happily follow premades and because of this, instead of four people with full BH you get half of the red team.

If one team consistently pushing two teams without any resistance, then yes, it is skill issue. Because no one wants to fight the winner.

This is not a problem with premades, but with the overall low quality player pool. And in general. The best way to fight premade is to make your own premade, this has already been mentioned more than once in all topics.

[Mawlzy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG43f1KkAWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3oSIdIz0Ps

This is blatantly unacceptable. This is not about "skill issue" or whatever. This is about 4-8 people all in their own group ruining Frontline for everyone else. There is a clear difference between your party not being good enough on an individual level, and 8 people who do this all the time, all ganging up and stomping on everyone else.

Does this sort of thing not happen in Japan? It would explain the problem lasting for so long...

I think the primary difference on JP is that you don't have 1/3 of your team doing everything possible to avoid combat. In that sense it's a skill issue, but that isn't going to change on NA/EU while roulette XP is offered and all players are thrown in the same pool.

Smaller teams, matchmaking, auto-kick and bans for lethargic players. The matches will only improve when everyone on the field wants to be there.

[JuicyHeals]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG43f1KkAWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3oSIdIz0Ps

This is blatantly unacceptable. This is not about "skill issue" or whatever. This is about 4-8 people all in their own group ruining Frontline for everyone else. There is a clear difference between your party not being good enough on an individual level, and 8 people who do this all the time, all ganging up and stomping on everyone else.

Does this sort of thing not happen in Japan? It would explain the problem lasting for so long...

People In JP actually try in PvP so it's not really a problem there.

[Divinemights]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG43f1KkAWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3oSIdIz0Ps

This is blatantly unacceptable. This is not about "skill issue" or whatever. This is about 4-8 people all in their own group ruining Frontline for everyone else. There is a clear difference between your party not being good enough on an individual level, and 8 people who do this all the time, all ganging up and stomping on everyone else.

Does this sort of thing not happen in Japan? It would explain the problem lasting for so long...

I don't need a premade team to kill a tunnel visioned target.
I simply put 5-4-3-2-1-Circle Macro on you and you will be dead
The way you stand is a perfect dummy target for Blue team to use that macro on you (First Video)
Are you going to ask to ban marking next?

[Mistress_Irika]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG43f1KkAWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3oSIdIz0Ps

This is blatantly unacceptable. This is not about "skill issue" or whatever. This is about 4-8 people all in their own group ruining Frontline for everyone else. There is a clear difference between your party not being good enough on an individual level, and 8 people who do this all the time, all ganging up and stomping on everyone else.

Does this sort of thing not happen in Japan? It would explain the problem lasting for so long...

Japan's games are way different than NA's. Everyone moves as a unit there making games seems more strategic like a chess game. Here? We just create deathballs at objectives whenever we can. Trust me when I say that you don't want some of the Japan players to invade the NA lobbies.

As for your videos, well...they seem too common for me. 1st clip, I think your alliance focused too much on ice and didn't focus on defending themselves. Very common. If this was Onsal I wouldn't be surprised if I catch at least one or 2 people trying to capture the oovoo in a ninja like manner in the middle of the fight. 2nd clip was clear as day. A team of no buffs against a team of BH4s. Seeing how these seems to be from the same game and how Flames have started it's no wonder they decided to let your team get farmed while they try and take ice from behind.