Thematic issues. Why all the sci fi.

[Ath192]

In an expansion with a brand new continent full of ancient traditions, monsters and ruins to explore... Why do the developers of this game keep derailing into scifi and rendering the games obviously medieval fantasy jobs more ridiculous?

There is so much that can be explored mystically and lorewise in the cultures they are referencing but no. Because robots.

Honestly they may as well introduce storm trooper and jedi knight as jobs now.

The entire amazon rainforest was shoved into a single dungeon. We had ONE ancient bird trial and then right into sphene and robots. The next trial is more robots.

I mean, I know the game had theming issues before this for sure but it's just childish at this point to pretend Limsa Lominsa is still sailing a wooden ship armada with black powder cannons like it has any relevance in a world with gundams and lasers.

I was just hoping Dawntrail would be less of that and more a return to normalcy in the world.

And people making excuses for this are always "Oh but its rare technology, an exception."

NO

exceptions only work when they are actual exceptions. At this point scifi is the norm and I guess the three starter cities are just the most oblivious, ignorant, and maladapted societies on the planet.

What an irony then, that it was our nations that conquered the rest of the world (via diplomatic alliances or violence) while they (the rest of the world) were zooming around in the space age.

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Anyways, here come the star trek suits. I guess.

[Ath192]

I live in a world with sword wielding plate armor wearing PLDs yo. DRKs and Warriors too. Watch out for the bows and arrows too.

[Valence]

Because sci-fi is cool and has always been part of the franchise. I'm happy if we have a bit of everything, and I'm always sad when people that don't like sci-fi always come to scream at me for enjoying it. The sci-fi plots (origenics/everkeep) is one of the things I liked with Danwtrail.

My secret wish for 7.0 before we got Danwtrail announced was to get to another planet now that we seem to travel through space, and restart a new storyline and arc there with brand new things, but I knew it was just a pipe dream for me, and it would piss all the usual complainers about sci-fi, even though it's always been there since 1.0 with Garlemald and Allag...

Edit: actually I was envisioning finding one/new colonies from Etheirys, likely descendants from Allagan spaceships, since Allag was a spacefaring civilization after all. We would have had the leeway of a full, brand new world to discover, fresh new things, and not be burdened by trying to one up everything that came before in the previous arc...

[yesnt]

At this point scifi is the norm and I guess the three starter cities are just the most oblivious, ignorant, and maladapted societies on the planet.

The Allagan Empire existed, you know. Magitek is there too. Since ARR, even. Just because you'd like to act like Etheirys is by default a medieval setting doesn't make that statement true.

[Ath192]

Because sci-fi is cool

Yeah, this sums it up. But just adding "cool" stuff to games without thought to what it does to the larger picture is not a good idea. If you actually zoom out and consider the implications of what gets introduced into the game you realize it doesn't make sense at all anymore. And it is a shame.

For the person that mentioned the allagans, at least the theming for the allagan's was ancient magical technology. We are down to generic space suits and starbucks coffee cups at this point. There is a reason most games DON'T do this. And its because its not good game design, it takes you out of it and doesn't make you take the game seriously. Even some other FFs manage to blend things better. Cloud's sword and outfit in FF7 looked modern. In this game we are getting gear that is easily 1000s of years apart thematically all the time.

[BigCheez]

Final Fantasy has always been a fusion of sci-fi and fantasy. I'm not a huge fan of the way that this is done in FFXIV though. It's less of a fusion and more like both things existing separately in the same universe.

[Ath192]

Final Fantasy has always been a fusion of sci-fi and fantasy. I'm not a huge fan of the way that this is done in FFXIV though. It's less of a fusion and more like both things existing separately in the same universe.

Exactly. It's jarring.

[yesnt]

We are down to generic space suits and starbucks coffee cups at this point. There is a reason most games DON'T do this. And its because its not good game design, it takes you out of it and doesn't make you take the game seriously. Even some other FFs manage to blend things better. Cloud's sword and outfit in FF7 looked modern. In this game we are getting gear that is easily 1000s of years apart thematically all the time.

It makes sense that a society that literally lived and developed in their own safe bubble for centuries have an entirely different lifestyle that doesn't mesh with the rest of the world at all. Even if you don't like it.

[Ath192]

It makes sense that a society that literally lived and developed in their own safe bubble for centuries have an entirely different lifestyle that doesn't mesh with the rest of the world at all. Even if you don't like it.

It doesn't make sense when said society is friendly and yet people keep choosing to live in their backwards ways instead of advancing technologically with the rest of the world. To this day there are still people training to use muskets in Limsa when obviously superior technology and guns are widely available.

And we have Turali people developing steam trains when they have the people of solution 9 flying carriers despite people moving between the two places at will. ANY rational person would be like. You know what? Maybe we should be working on that.

But nah, they'll spend the next 10 years ignoring all the advancements in mobility in front of their faces to keep riding buffalo and making crude locomotives.

And yet somehow............... We are going to go to other worlds to developing them and restart life. But nobody is developing our own? Like hello?

[Hallarem]

The amount of copium here trying to justify the sudden BLITZ of scifi entering into the mix. Sharlayan is to blame for all, they can figure everything out that others can't. Same with the Loporrit.

Allagan tech used to be this ancient mysterious technology that was hard to recreate and was LOST for a reason, now it seems that the plot farts out tech and modern things on a whim. THERE IS NO REASON IN THIS GAME TO HAVE MIDDLE-AGE VILLAGE TYPE SOCIETIES IF THIS IS THE CASE. Can't any of you people understand world building and how decisions like this affect it in the story and in the world they are supposedly trying to portray us?

In other FF's the infusion of tech was done elegantly and with purpose. This is the equivalent of shoving a rusty spoon in your eye.

They are killing the FANTASY in Final Fantasy XIV.