Thematic issues. Why all the sci fi.

[ovIm]

Personally, the aesthetics of S9 (or Allag, or Garlemald, or the Moon, for that matter) don't exactly bother me. Love me a good fantasy style sci-fi mix.

Imho, what truly looks misplaced in this world is stuff like the current PVP season outfit, or the Fall Guys event equipment. Stuff that looks like it could have been ripped straight out of a current year fashion magazine. That breaks the visual style for me more than S9 could ever do.

[Hallarem]

I absolutely adore scifi. Especially when it doesnt fit with the vibe.
Its so artistic and brave. Revolutionary if I may say.
Honestly I think they should make every spaceship work with dynamis and some new spacefuel we mine from space.

I think fantasy is boring, I wanna see Estinien in jeans and a snap-back cap with some harajuku fashion in Solution 9.
Everyone honestly should wear regulators now, also maybe we could have energy swords and the force too. But we call it "Dynamis-push"

I honestly think its time for Hydaelyn to blow up and the rest of the story to take place in lile space fleets for every nation. It would be so COOL. Instead of aether the mechs could be our main combat tool. Please SE make it happen.

[Hallarem]

The more real life references. The better. I think Alphinaud should turn to the camera with his boyband kpop outfit, while riding his dynamis vespa like. "Hey, those Trump tariffs are crazy huh?"
I think its honestly time we also have a McRolands as well, with a drive thru in Limsa

[Brandr]

Name one Final Fantasy game, specially mainline which FFXIV is part of, that doesn't have sci-fi.
I'll be waiting.

[Daughterofdeath]

Name one Final Fantasy game, specially mainline which FFXIV is part of, that doesn't have sci-fi.
I'll be waiting.

depending on your defination ff1-ff3 rlly didnt and it 100% wasnt to the extreme levels of sci-fi nonsense until ff8 came out and then ff13 it went way to far

[Exmo]

depending on your defination ff1-ff3 rlly didnt and it 100% wasnt to the extreme levels of sci-fi nonsense until ff8 came out and then ff13 it went way to far

The first paragraph of FF3's story on Wikipedia:

One thousand years before the events in the game, on a floating continent hovering high above the surface of an unnamed planet, a technologically advanced civilization sought to harness the power of the four elemental crystals of light.

[Daughterofdeath]

The first paragraph of FF3's story on Wikipedia:

hints why i said depending on your defination, I mean technically sephiorth himself is sci-fi with alien dna creating him but to many people he isnt defined as sci-fi, same goes for ff9 zidanes/kuja home plantet on terra to many people it appears more like a demon world than a sci-fi plantet

[Brandr]

FFVI and FFVII are the most acclaimed titles, FFX started in a highly advance city, FFXV is one of the best sellers of the franchise.
The first final fantasy has a dungeon in outer space and time travel plot!
If anything, FFXIV doesn't have sci-fi enough.

If you guys were talking about you not liking sci-fi, that would be fine, it's ok to not enjoy something.

The whole franchise of Final Fantasy is built on being the ultimate fantastic story, where all kinds of fantasy settings can encompassed in a single anachronic world in every single game.

[Daughterofdeath]

FFVI and FFVII are the most acclaimed titles, FFX started in a highly advance city, FFXV is one of the best sellers of the franchise.
The first final fantasy has a dungeon in outer space and time travel plot!
If anything, FFXIV doesn't have sci-fi enough.

If you guys were talking about you not liking sci-fi, that would be fine, it's ok to not enjoy something.

The whole franchise of Final Fantasy is built on being the ultimate fantastic story, where all kinds of fantasy settings can encompassed in a single anachronic world in every single game.

we do sci-fi way to much in ffxiv "advance city" doesnt = sci-fi I mean midgard zanarken are advance to the fantasy terms but at most they were modernized, There is a difference of an advance city and gaint robots/space travel and alien nonsense


its that that I'm against "advance city sci-fi nonsense" im against it auto equaling machines and cyber teck nonsense its not creative its not even artistic. Atleast something like farscape or stargates "advance" sci-fi worlds sometimes showed one that was like all plant people or w/e even the bs avatar is sci-fi but respectable because it still had an aspect of fantasy

Plus you can do an advance civilaization that fits into fantasy that "is sorta sci-fi like the anicents in ff7.


If you want sci-fi okay lets do it but stop with the cybernetic and mechine/robot nonsense

[Rosenstrauch]

depending on your defination ff1-ff3 rlly didnt

Final Fantasy 1 has a tower where enemy encounters frequently feature robots, culminating in the Warriors of Light using a teleporter to access and orbital space station. The "secret boss" encounter in that area, on the bridge before you encounter Tiamat, is the WarMech/Death Machine, whose strongest attack was called "NUKE" in the original translation. The Death Machine is in FFXIV, by the by—it's a enemy mob in both Bozja and Garlemald.

Final Fantasy II has an entire sequence where you board the Dreadnought—an homage to the Death Star—with the intent to sabotage it from within. One of the neat things about it is that, while the GBA/PSP remake/compilation of I+II restyled the space station in FFI as a flying castle, FFII turned the Dreadnought into this behemoth, complete with anti-air batteries and a mechanical claw for seizing smaller airships.

Final Fantasy III... There's a submarine? There's an ancient, technologically advanced civilization? Most of the advanced stuff you see here is just crystalpunk, though.

And just for fun:

IV: The Tower of Babil is an interdimensional elevator whose interior is full on sci-fi. The Red Moon is literally a space station the size of a small planet, which you get to via a starship using the same tileset as the Tower of Babil for its interior. There's also the Tower of Zot, and this is the first Final Fantasy to interpret the Iron Giant enemies as gundam-esque machina. This game is also the origin of Alexander in the form of the Giant of Babil—a bipedal machina so enormous it can walk over mountains. The sequel also introduces the True Moon, which is an even more advanced space station able to eat planets.

V: There is an entire clockpunk civilization that seemingly predated the planet's sundering, as a significant portion of it wound up inside the Interdimensional Rift. This is notably also the origin of Omega, a series staple.

VI: May well be the original of the term "magitech", and is a major source of FFXIV's Garlean warmachina designs. The Ultima Weapon makes its first appearance here as a biomechanical monstrosity.

VII: Firmly Dieselpunk and sci-fi.

VIII: The Gardens. Esthar. The bloody Ragnarok. The Ultima Weapon makes its second appearance here, once more as a biomechanical monstrosity.

IX: Terra.

X: I heard you like football and water polo, so we combined them into a single sport where the field is a gigantic anti-gravity sphere of water. It's also a little surprising FFXIV hasn't mined FFX's remaster for its large number of warmachina. Notably, the sequel's final boss is Vegnagun, a warmachina whose ultimate attack is... well. Spoilers for FFX-2

XI: Haven't played, but I wouldn't be surprised.

XII: The literal first boss of the game is a one-man airship, looking even more sci-fi than anything in FFVI. The Empire as a whole loves its futuristic technology, and the game has not one, but two homages to the Death Star in the form of the Dreadnought Leviathan and the Sky Fortress Bahamut, the latter of which has you fighting the Emperor alongside a Darth Vader analog who betrays him in the game's final hour. (Funnily enough: II also had a Darth Vader analog, and both characters had a familial connection to someone in the player's party).

XIII: Pick an Allagan machina. Any Allagan machina. There's a 90% chance it came from this game, with the rest of Allag's aesthetic being stylized to match them when it wasn't cribbing stuff from FFIII instead. Though given that we call that aesthetic "crystalpunk" now, it's also technically sci-fi!

XV: I'll just let Gary Numan sum it up.

XVI: Haven't played, but I've heard Omega is in it in some capacity, and that's all I need to know.