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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    You can make all the excuses for a multi million dollar company all you want, but I still think its a copout in a FF game to just shove things in that we see daily instead of doing what they did in past games. Esp since you are avoiding my direct criticism that it feels lazy because it feels like the "artist" they used just drew his gpu instead of being an actual creative and doing something more unique. A few small things, like a lamp or a stove, here and there is fine, but an entire city that looks like my PC is just incredibly lazy design that, like I said before, anyone can fart out. I even said before the expac released that the juxtaposition of a tribal like culture next to cyberpunk 2077 was going to be a hard thing to pull off, and they didn't pull it off at all. Not from a visual pov, not from a writing pov and even with suspension of disbelief, not from a logical pov. The big difference between FFIX and DT is the writers took a lot more care in IX to make it make sense and to make it look like something much more fantastical than a 2000ce PC or a ps2. I am sure if the Terran tech was just a cordless phone, a fax machine and an ipod, ppl would have have the same wtf reaction.

    We used to hold SE to a higher standard and we should again, instead of just incessently making excuses for them.

    You did not play these games. The highest selling ff in recent history is 4 dudes in a car goofing around, its sold more than each part of remake (individually ) and 16 what are you even saying. We aren't even going to go into 13. So not only is it normal for the series, people like it which is why they keep doing it. You preaching to no one about a series you have only played selectively so you could ignore its most successful entries that disprove your point
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    Last edited by Villa101; 02-14-2025 at 11:35 AM.

  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by Villa101 View Post
    You did not play these games. The highest selling ff in recent history is 4 dudes in a car goofing around, its sold more than each part of remake (individually ) and 16 what are you even saying. We aren't even going to go into 13
    know what else sells alot Justin beaver concert tickets, twilight is an insult to vampires sold very well. Popularity and sale numbers mean nothing outside the majority of people are worthless sheeps with no brains or taste
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Villa101 View Post
    You did not play these games. The highest selling ff in recent history is 4 dudes in a car goofing around, its sold more than each part of remake (individually ) and 16 what are you even saying. We aren't even going to go into 13. So not only is it normal for the series, people like it which is why they keep doing it. You preaching to no one about a series you have only played selectively so you could ignore its most successful entries that disprove your point
    Yeah this a difficult topic but when it comes to art it's subjective. Its possible 4 dudes in a car sold better but that doesn't make it the superior aesthetic or a good fit for 14. Kanye West sells millions of copies of his albums and you see him topping the charts, but he's not artistically superior to mozart or beethoven and yet you barely see/hear anyone listening to them often.
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    Below we have a transcription of what Naoki Yoshi-P Yoshida said at PAX:
    - "For some players, like me, I kind of get sleepy because it's so repetitive."

  4. #174
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    These guys angry at sci Fi in this game... Dudes, you can't be more disingenuous.

    If you don't like it, that's fine.

    But, saying it doesn't fit? That's just dishonest rationalization and doesn't matter the size of your speech. The longer it is, more wrong it will be.

    Why? Simply because EVERY FINAL FANTASY GAME HAS SCI FI ALONGSIDE MEDIEVAL THEMES!!!

    And you got understand why they add sci-fi here: the competition, WOW, ESO and GW, are mostly medieval. I understand that FFXIV to be it's own thing needs to differentiate itself from the other while maintaining it's own identity.
    But sci-fi has been part of the franchise since the first game. C'mon!
    If you were complaining about the true flaws of this game (lack of content, long intervals between patches, housing, companion, glamour lock, and many, so many others...) I'd be by you side, but complaining about sci-fi is waste of keyboard.
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandr View Post
    These guys angry at sci Fi in this game... Dudes, you can't be more disingenuous.

    If you don't like it, that's fine.

    But, saying it doesn't fit? That's just dishonest rationalization and doesn't matter the size of your speech. The longer it is, more wrong it will be.

    Why? Simply because EVERY FINAL FANTASY GAME HAS SCI FI ALONGSIDE MEDIEVAL THEMES!!!

    And you got understand why they add sci-fi here: the competition, WOW, ESO and GW, are mostly medieval. I understand that FFXIV to be it's own thing needs to differentiate itself from the other while maintaining it's own identity.
    But sci-fi has been part of the franchise since the first game. C'mon!
    If you were complaining about the true flaws of this game (lack of content, long intervals between patches, housing, companion, glamour lock, and many, so many others...) I'd be by you side, but complaining about sci-fi is waste of keyboard.
    You're trolling.
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  6. #176
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    At least he isn't a blatant Botanist.
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    We should have a Limsan spacefleet full of robots, so the devs can finally achieve their gundam wet dreams they are so obviously holding back on.
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    I definitely prefer the medieval fantasy aesthetic over sci-fi but mixing the two isn't anything new to the series. Even FFIX which is pretty squarely in the former category ends up dabbling in sci-fi toward the end.

    An MMO has to make new content for potentially decades so it's to be expected that they branch out eventually to keep things fresh. WoW has done exactly the same thing in the past. As long as they strike a balance between the sci-fi stuff and more low tech fantasy stuff I don't think it's a big deal. More than likely the next expansion will swing back to favor the latter.
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  9. #179
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    Medieval aesthetic and magik robot from outer space : ...

    Modern aesthetic in heroic fantasy : *riot*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallarem View Post
    We should have a Limsan spacefleet full of robots, so the devs can finally achieve their gundam wet dreams they are so obviously holding back on.
    It's finally time to hunt down that damned white robot space whale from dimension X that haunted us for so long! Arrrrr!
    And we need laser swords. Lots of laser swords!
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