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    How to fix ALL Housing issues.

    1. Double the amount of Wards
    2. Add a 3rd subdivision to each existing Ward
    3. Make plots MUCH cheaper (example 10k gil for small, 100k gil for medium & 500k for large).
    3b. Remove the lottery system.
    4. Make the permits Free, or a very low sum like 1000 gil.
    5. Make apartmets cheaper (example 1000 gil) and FC apartments Free.
    6. Let your alts have access to your house.
    7. Let us place Glam Dresser & Armoire inside our houses.

    Explanation of all points.
    1+2: More wards & additional subdivisions let more players get their own estate.
    3+3b: Making the plots cheaper make them more accessible for new players, and players who doesn't have much gil, and with more plots available the lottery system would become redundant.
    4+5: This just goes hand in hand with the previous points, making them cheaper would mean letting more people have access to them.
    6: Why can't MY alt use MY house? That's just silly, so instead make them account bound.
    7: I don't see the harm in having them accessible in your own house. If anything that would just be more convenient.

    Oh and replying with "It can't be done because spaghetti code" is not a valid reply, just fix the game already, get programmers & coders that are competent enough to fix these kids of issues in 2025...
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    Last edited by AstreaLove; 02-07-2025 at 07:24 AM.

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    1. Is a problematic solution. On many worlds there are an abundance of free plots, the issue is that people don't want or like them because of their location. In this respects a huge part of the issue is actually player created. As a middle-ground the Wards should be more dynamically distributed across worlds, as it is more of an issue on some worlds than others.

    2. I agree. But I think the better solution is to actually just discontinue this system. It's always an uphill battle, it needs redesigning.

    3. I don't think so, Gil has very little use in the game and is very easy to make.

    3b. Replace lottery system with what exactly? I hate RNG as much as the next guy but this combats players selling houses, so it helps ensure that there are more in circulation. Their initial attempt at combatting this was to use a randomized timer at which point you could buy the plot. All this turned it into was placard camping.

    4. I would put them at half-price. I can appreciate they can be expensive on top of buying the plot, but let's not make Gil utterly meaningless.

    5. I think apartments are affordable as is. Merely playing the game from start to finish nets you several million. Perhaps half-price on the FC rooms though.

    6. Wholly agree.

    7. Wholly agree.
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    before the lottery system RMT bots bought the houses and sold them for 50 - 250 usd they would flood the waiting Que and buy up all the houses.

    Before the lottery system griefers would let people wait for houses before relocating to the homes.

    the best thing they could do is add more wards if they added like the same amount of houses we got to the game you would have more homes than interested players.
    and shorten the wait times entry periods are 3 days and results periods are 2 days.
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    Last edited by Kahnha; 02-07-2025 at 09:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kahnha View Post
    before the lottery system RMT bots bought the houses and sold them for 50 - 250 usd they would flood the waiting Que and buy up all the houses.
    Yet before the lottery system is when almost everyone I know (myself included) managed to buy plots multiple times.

    Also had the freedom to sell, relocate and swap plots with other players before they implemented the invisible cooldown to purchase plots. We were able to purchase plots the moment they became available.
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    Last edited by Yeol; 02-07-2025 at 06:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    I think the amount of pity FFXIV gets is just astronomically insane.
    Oh no, FFXIV is too poor and fragile, they can't make accounts on websites what are you thinking
    Oh no, FFXIV is too poor and delicate, they can't fix housing, what are you thinking-

    What on earth do you people think you're paying for?? What do you think is supposed to happen to your money, has it never occurred to some of you that the money you spend is actually supposed to go towards improving things? I know a lot of us are American which makes like 90% of you easily susceptible to accepting every single blatant lie a billionaire ever tells you but MAN. At a certain point it's like, are people blind-is playing through brail the new meta or what. FFXIV is a subscription based game, I expect those millions upon millions of dollars to go into the game that we're playing, not 42 other FAILED projects along with nice watches and rings to flash during Live Letters.

    I don't wanna hear "it strains servers" ok then get new servers. WoW is doing it just fine. Other games do these things just fine, so why can't FFXIV? "spaghetti code" well they should have fixed that when spent who knows how long ""upgrading"" the graphics. "It's too expensive to-" No it isnt, FFXIV is the highest paying game the company has. That doesnt add up. How the game a huge success, yet can't afford to do a single thing different without immediately going into bankruptcy? It's not that they can't, it's that without any pressure, they won't. and the more you guys sit here and keep trying to defuse pressure, the longer it takes to get anything that isnt another hildebrand legs in the air quest.

    OP was right in the majority of what they suggested, if not all of it.
    Rubber needs to hit the road. They wanna stay a top game? They need to start acting like one.
    More subdivisions, more houses, cheaper costs-getting a house should not be this hard in this game anymore. It's no longer acceptable.
    Enough of this formula garbage too. Return to innovation. New ideas, huge efforts. FFXIV is way too comfortable right now.
    Spittin' straight facts here. I have NO idea why Square thinks prioritizing the creation of terrible games no one wants to play is a good idea.

    And I'm DOUBLY baffled that the FFXIV devs thought a graphical "update" was a good use of their time. Instead of, idk, fixing one of the zillion things players have been complaining about for the past several years.

    "Should we do the things that basically every player has been asking for?"

    "Nah. Do a graphical update literally NO ONE asked for."

    I guess they thought the fanbase is vain enough that "pretty new faces" would distract us from complaining about the real issues. Unfortunately, their plan backfired since they wound up making most of the faces look about a zillion times WORSE. XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    Yet before the lottery system is when almost everyone I know (myself included) managed to buy plots multiple times.

    Also had the freedom to sell, relocate and swap plots with other players before they implemented the invisible cooldown to purchase plots. We were able to purchase plots the moment they became available.
    You and your friends that were fortunate do not speak for everyone when the system you mentioned was a thing it was still hard to get a plot because people were being greedy and buying more than one house.

    I got a house for my FC back when they added more wards in 2018 I'm far from homeless at this point but I can acknowledge that the housing system was dumb and is now still dumb all they have to do is slowly add more wards, (2 FC 2 hybrid and 2 personal), lower the wait times of the lotto system and it would release a lot of pressure on people who were not around 8 years ago. This should not be hard to do for square; a multi million dollar game company to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kahnha View Post
    You and your friends that were fortunate do not speak for everyone when the system you mentioned was a thing it was still hard to get a plot because people were being greedy and buying more than one house.

    I got a house for my FC back when they added more wards in 2018 I'm far from homeless at this point but I can acknowledge that the housing system was dumb and is now still dumb all they have to do is slowly add more wards, (2 FC 2 hybrid and 2 personal), lower the wait times of the lotto system and it would release a lot of pressure on people who were not around 8 years ago. This should not be hard to do for square; a multi million dollar game company to do.
    Not saying the old system was good, but the lottery system isn't much better. Bots still bid on the most popular plots and sell them for real money later. If I want to say anything good about the lottery system, it's that players do have a chance to win the plot even if it was 1 legit user entry V.S 100 bots.

    Also looking at this https://www.xiv-housing.com/ made me realize how different the state of housing is between EU and NA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    Yet before the lottery system is when almost everyone I know (myself included) managed to buy plots multiple times.

    Also had the freedom to sell, relocate and swap plots with other players before they implemented the invisible cooldown to purchase plots. We were able to purchase plots the moment they became available.
    I have a large estate on Aether, that I got just before they went to lotto. When I saw it available I had already confirmed entrance into an alliance or leveling or something roulette. I entered, thought the house would be gone anyway even if I left immediately since it was peak play time so just played through it. Got out, the large house was still sitting open, so I ran up and bought it. No muss no fuss.

    It did indeed stink to get a house due to scarcity, but some sat open for quite awhile, even larges. You just had to check the wards at the top of the hour when abandoned plots opened, which could easily be done. I got my house that way, my spouse got theirs that way, a handful of fc mates did it that way, we even got our fc house that way. So many ppl just thought it was impossible due to rmt or scarcity and just didn't bother doing the bare minimum of checking the wards now and then. I would see houses sitting open for days sometimes, some smalls for weeks. Yet I would hear ppl on my server, where there were houses open, complain that there were none.

    We do need new, more abundant and better housing, but the problem was with the ppl sometimes, not the system.
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    How to fix ALL housing issues:

    STOP THIS

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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiTia View Post
    That in itself is a miracle and we should be grateful that we get a playable expansion or patch at all
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    The reason lockouts exist in instances is so that you don’t have people hogging every single instance a la Stormblood’s “A System Error Occurred During Event Movement” or among other things, just not having the space to house every player instance. We saw that in Endwalker in fact with how hard they were selling and couldn’t fit everyone in at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HunkyMarauder View Post
    STOP THIS

    That was mobile; which they are only assisting with, and the console port of Fantasian Neo Dimension, which is now released.
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