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    Bibine_Bine's Avatar
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    Bibine Bine
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    It's insane that we're now in the timeline where WoW is stealing systems from FFXIV and just doing it better.
    First follower dungeons, now housing. Holy shit.
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    Peter Redhill
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bibine_Bine View Post
    It's insane that we're now in the timeline where WoW is stealing systems from FFXIV and just doing it better.
    First follower dungeons, now housing. Holy shit.
    Dude Follower Dungeons absolutely dunks on Trusts. It's not even fair. It's like a massacre.

    They have better AI. They can be told to be aggressive or passive. You can play with friends up until you only have 1 bot. They use optimized routes. They will tell you what direction to go into if you idle too long, letting you know what path is the correct one.

    Trusts are embarrassing in comparison, honestly.
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    Last edited by Ardeth; 02-09-2025 at 05:02 AM.
    "You haven't proven that it is safe, you've (only) proved that you can't figure out how it's dangerous."

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    Mirikh Almirikh
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    It's not an either or situation here. They could keep the ward system as is, and alongside that just expand what instanced apartments can do: Give apartments customizable floor plans/upgrades and a balcony and we have the best of both worlds. Those who want their neighborhoods could still have them, and those who want a very customizable private instanced space could have that as well. They could even make it a big gil sink since we don't seem to have many. Basic apartment could stay as is in price, giant penthouse very expensive.
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Scholar Lv 100
    no lotteries, and no onerous upkeep
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    also with instanced housing for everyone would make so much money from the mogstation from housing items that get put into it. i mean one of the most popular housing items is a 5$ tree on mogstation.

    people like to say they se would never give personal housing because of subs from people who feel they are forced to stay subbed but the mogstation will always blow subs away in money department.
    I don't know for sure but I have to imagine that this would be the case, both in good will generated vs the prisoner analogy we make currently and also in the concept that everyone has a house now. Also can make houses matter more since everyone has one, further encouraging the use and therefore the cosmetic desires.

    Like in Wildstar the houses had actual features, but this was fine because everyone could have one.
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    Xelanar Fhey
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    Shiva
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    With how horrible the storytelling in Dawntrail turned out to be, housing and savage raids are the last two pillars that keep me hooked into the game.
    If WoW housing ends up being good, I'll leave and just come back every two major patches to do the raids for a couple of weeks.
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    Kaye Esdarke
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    Yeah but the downside is you have to play WoW.
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immut View Post
    Yeah but the downside is you have to play WoW.
    Honestly right now, that is a much better option. The story is better, the gameplay is better, battle is more fun, and there is plenty of stuff to do and collect. VS here where you log in, maybe do a roulette or two of the same dungeons some of us have been doing for 10+ years, maybe do a map or join a hunt train for the 217th day in a row and then, unless you are an LL enjoyer, log out. So one man's downside is a lot of other ppl's good time.

    Edit to add that even the cs quality is way better. The confrontation between
    Xal'atath and Alleria
    at the end of TWW was absolutely amazing and I wish we would get the same quality of CS in this game instead of npcs just standing around stiffly emoting. Same with the VA being leaps and bounds better now. WoW leaves me wanting more story right now while I cannot bring myself to do the msq here right now.
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    Last edited by MicahZerrshia; 02-10-2025 at 05:13 AM.

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    Mao Xifeng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immut View Post
    Yeah but the downside is you have to play WoW.
    Mao finding MUCH more gameplay in WoW and, at least for Mao, gameplay in WoW is MUCH more funs. For example, gatherings in FFXIV is basically flyings around to known gather nodes and then picking away in complete safety. BORINGS! In WoW, gather nodes is show ups in different places, is sometimes guarded by critters, is sometimes booby-trapped and sometimes gives differents and interesting things. MSQs in WoW often has minigames and interesting battles. In FFXIV, MSQs is....talk to Lady Fuzzy Cat. Boss fights in WoW is scripted like Boss fights in FFXIV, BUT....is still lots random elements and is much more funs for Mao than Boss fights in FFXIV. Glam system and Flying system in WoW is also much more funs for Mao. And now will soon be house for Mao in WoW. Is no contest for Mao. WoW givings Mao much more funs. Mao just wishes FFXIV would get hints and try make FFXIV much betters as well. Then Mao would play both games.
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    Last edited by Eraden; 02-10-2025 at 04:37 AM.

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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Mao finding MUCH more gameplay in WoW and, at least for Mao, gameplay in WoW is MUCH more funs. For example, gatherings in FFXIV is basically flyings around to known gather nodes and then picking away in complete safety. BORINGS! In WoW, gather nodes is show ups in different places, is sometimes guarded by critters, is sometimes booby-trapped and sometimes gives differents and interesting things. MSQs in WoW often has minigames and interesting battles. In FFXIV, MSQs is....talk to Lady Fuzzy Cat. Boss fights in WoW is scripted like Boss fights in FFXIV, BUT....is still lots random elements and is much more funs for Mao than Boss fights in FFXIV. Glam system and Flying system in WoW is also much more funs for Mao. And now will soon be house for Mao in WoW. Is no contest for Mao. WoW givings Mao much more funs. Mao just wishes FFXIV would get hints and try make FFXIV much betters as well. Then Mao would play both games.
    Wish I had it in me to go join Mao on WoW...
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