WoW's player housing will have no FOMO and private housing wards

[Tyintheron]

What lack of interaction? Garrisons were pretty much the only thing to do in Warlords of Draenor unless you raided so they got plenty of interaction (especially the mission table).

The lack of interaction as "housing," where people didn't interact with them outside of their daily/weekly/mission table systems. It's where the whole "we already tried housing with garrisons" quote came from.

They made a choice to neuter the feature, then claimed that the neutered feature was proof nobody really wanted housing. Like selling a car without wheels, then saying the fact nobody bought one was proof "nobody wants cars."

It was completely disingenuous, and a real point of frustration for a lot of players from a company that would constantly reinforce their utter disdain for "casual content" like housing, transmog, alts, or anything else that might not contribute to your raid team's DPS.

So far the housing system is going that exact same route - big customization promises, very small number of initial options - so waiting to see what happens.

[Kahnha]

Like I said, I'm not matching that blud energy. And I'm not your buddy. Chill out.

I like you xD

in end square can fix the issues with housing they just choose not to. Copy and pasting the same wards 20 more times will easily fix the housing issue I see you are a hali player also when that server first came up the housing wards were very gernerous and that was only the base amount of housing wards. (show me your in game house :>)

[DBriggs304]

It is still a change how WoW took a direct shot at FF. I have a feeling that with Microsoft, they aren't going to have an issue coming at FF in an effort to chip off ff players to come to wow. FF is in some real trouble and the LL doesn't seem to change much.

[VoidsentStatus]

I like you xD

in end square can fix the issues with housing they just choose not to. Copy and pasting the same wards 20 more times will easily fix the housing issue I see you are a hali player also when that server first came up the housing wards were very gernerous and that was only the base amount of housing wards. (show me your in game house :>)

Well, the funny part is that I think part of the reason we don't have more wards is because of a feature most people don't know about because they stopped talking about it. 2 years ago, they mentioned they wanted to add submarines to personal housing. A part of me has always suspected this was primarily delayed due to the amount of the inflation it would cause and them not having enough proper gil sinks in the game they were confident in to undo that and that's why we've seen the interest in gil mount and accessories being added recently. If that feature is still planned to happen, even multiplying the amount of wards won't stop the outbreak of even regular players owning multiple houses just for gil making sake. Not to mention the upgrade interior size they have planned is going to massive tank auto-demolition rates from what we previously had before they were paused since medium and large house demo frequency are drastically underneath small by a ridiculous margin. They have something planned they just haven't announced yet because I don't see them self-killing housing this blatantly without having something in store later to fix it even if it's a storm when implemented.

(show me your in game house -> the primary 2 i use. the rest i wasn't decorating until after the housing item limit patch because its too much gil to waste to perhaps redo entire layouts and i have to brush up on the new housing item combinations since the last time I was active in the housing community https://imgur.com/a/jevn5Tb )

[Andanie]

So to be fair, WoW was decaying. Content releases got slower and slower, the passion seemed to be gone. The game wasn't formulaic but the risk they took made the players mad and whenever they got feedback they seemed dismissive of it. XIV is starting to remind of what it was like to play WoW in Shadowlands. The devs feel out of touch, complacent and unable or unwilling to take risk.

[Firalia]

Considering Yoshi-P has always been so pro-taking breaks, the current housing system is extremely anti-consumer. It's the primary reason many people are still subbed to the game, which is vastly inflating player counts.
Now we're seeing that there is an alternative where we can both keep the neighbourhood atmosphere, and have unlimited housing. There is no excuses for them to make anymore, especially when they already created a similar system with Island Sanctuary. It's not "the game is old, spaghetti code" because WoW is older. It's not "it's too expensive to implement" because GW2 managed, and that game doesn't even have a sub.

I think that if we see a change, it'll be years from now. Because the current system makes them money, and it would cost them money to fix it.

I've never been so close to playing WoW. Never in my life did I think I'd even be considering that.

[Hallarem]

So to be fair, WoW was decaying. Content releases got slower and slower, the passion seemed to be gone. The game wasn't formulaic but the risk they took made the players mad and whenever they got feedback they seemed dismissive of it. XIV is starting to remind of what it was like to play WoW in Shadowlands. The devs feel out of touch, complacent and unable or unwilling to take risk.

Differences in dev culture and culture in general. Same with players.

People in WoW openly hate WoW most of the time. Half meme half reality, but its -their- game. The criticism is abound, and some of it makes it through to the devs. The air around critique is normal.
The devs have clear roadmaps, release new features. They COMMUNICATE (not always successful, but they TRY) I quit mainly for lore/story/worldbuilding decisions.

In FFXIV its like SE is a k-pop band and you get attacked by their fans the moment you try to even suggest and improvement or put out any critique towards their blatant lack of communication or lack of a roadmap to show to their players. "Poor devs this. Lack of resources that" while we SHOWER them with money and we barely get anything to show for it except some slightly different colored meat on top of the same old skeleton systems that they REFUSE to improve or add any QoL. Wheres raidplanner at? Where are chat bubbles at?

[Basteala]

I can already taste the hysteria two or three years later when FF14 players all quit and become FF14 refugees in WoW LMAO

It could happen. And then FF14 would have to step up its game. Honestly, competition between two IPs is a good thing for the consumer.

[Red-thunder]

It could happen. And then FF14 would have to step up its game. Honestly, competition between two IPs is a good thing for the consumer.

Consumers putting pressure on the game companies is also a good thing for the consumer but funnily enough there are many consumers who actively side with the firm. Can the competition overcome pure tribalism, I wonder?

[tsuchii]

XIV just need to put instanced housing. Not everyone like neighbours and just want to be able to get a hub for themselves and decorate.