Patch Dungeons and Gear Farming

[NarhiFaunlha]

I wish patch dungeons would drop a piece of gear for your role, similarly to MSQ dungeons.

Alternatively some sort of token you can farm and trade in for a single piece of gear of your choice would also be wonderful. If that's "too easy" then spend a few of the Aesthetics tomestones. ESO allows you to spend currency to 'buy' a piece of dungeon gear that you're missing- and for each piece of a set you already have- the price goes down. Not a bad concept and makes glamour farming (not necessarily stat farming) much easier to manage.

I've run the Yuweayawata Field Station about 30 times and the Fending gloves still elude me. Send help.

[Khryseis_Astra]

I probably ran it upwards of 50 times to get both the casting and aiming coats. Still disappointed they’re not dyeable, let alone dual dyes, but they are gorgeous! (Side note, I’ve only seen the minion 3 times during all those runs.)

While it’s not a leveling dungeon, someone suggested I keep every piece of the set I had managed to get in my Armory Chest to push the RNG towards the missing piece. It’s probably just coincidence that I got the pieces I was looking for shortly after, but I figure one day when they get around to putting everything into outfit sets, I’ll want to have the whole set anyway!

While I wouldn’t mind having a token system, I don’t think they ever will, just because there’s people like us who will run the dungeon on loop until we get what we want!

[Ardeth]

I've said it multiple times in multiple different threads about it, but all loot should be guaranteed loot like leveling dungeons. And I mean everything. You have 21 jobs to gear. TWENTY ONE! This means that if loot worked like it did in leveling dungeons, you would have to clear the dungeon 45 times sans weapons. That's already way too much, but it's better than pure rng. Pure rng can go into the thousands. And if we keep with dungeon rng, it becomes less. We are going to get the dungeons regardless because of roulettes. So guaranteeing the loot doesn't change that at all. Even clearing harder content has books to guarantee the loot. This isn't rocket science.

Pure rng is hell. So stop it, SquareEnix.... get some help.

[Shougun]

Had suggested a glamour system that was also a safety net, think I called it crystal library.

The short: gear can be compressed into materia (token) (naming convention: 'title of area' + 'materia'), in the library allows you to convert materia into other gear (like 3 - 5 to a gear or your choice), if you collect 1.5 materia * total gear in the zone you unlock all the glamours and converting future materia into gear is cheaper too. So you can get a glamour log, and for a little extra you can pull specific items (pull as in the literal item, that has stats). Materia can also be used for other things like quests, relics, and crafting.


So play the job you want, failing to get the item you want is fine, get the glamour / gear you want in the end. Also encourages collectors to run dungeons a few times lol. Due to the materia concept inventory management is easier (can compress items in content), and additionally provided a data friendly way to add glamours (a dungeon of 30 items becomes 1 variable).

[Jeeqbit]

I think the simplest solution would be to allow you to trade in gear for a currency for that dungeon, which is then used to buy rewards that drop from that dungeon.

[Aco505]

It took me 50 runs to get the Alzadaal's Maiming Chest. I agree this should be a thing. You'd still need to run it 10+ times if unlucky per gear set.

[Shurrikhan]

I'll second the gear guarantee, so long as we add the option of having gear not better than our currently equipped gear go to our inventory instead of our armory chest.

That said, to double up on reducing inventory waste, I'd also like to have all gear that is merely a recolor of another piece from the same dungeon be consolidated into one pieces with conditional stats (mostly in terms of Defense/M. Defense), usable by jobs of any of those roles, and try to rotate those consolidations around a bit (e.g., Aiming/Scouting & Striking/Maiming; Fending/Maiming & Striking/Scouting, Aiming/Casting & Scouting/Striking/Maiming...).

And, to that same end, I'd also like to see totems and tokens moved to the Currency Tab and perhaps even to eventually rehaul Materia to take up no room in our bags. Ideally, I'd change it into a granular currency of type (without grade, that being determined instead only by how much you put in) that is used only to change gear stats from one to another, reducing its need and removing its inventory costs. In that way it improves stat-customizability without necessarily adding steps beyond gear acquisition and greatly reduces inventory bloat.

Aside: On that note, in a distant future, if not the next FF MMO instead, would greatly increase potential job versatility and have jobs again use all primary stats to at least some degree with playstyles varied by stat balance and role determined almost equally by one's stats (so that if one has a full set of Mind gear from their WHM, they could pass that down to their MNK and play said MNK supportively, too, even if with a far lower maximum HPS), give some degree of stat cost to additional Defense and rehaul gear to actually be a collection of parts elements that are separately removable (so that you can trim down Fending gear to Maiming, Maiming to Aiming or Striking, Striking/Aiming to Scouting, etc., or vice versa), each of which would adds to some stat while reducing another. I.e., you'd have crafting actually allow for near-bespoke visible combinations of parts, making it far more interesting, while also reducing the inventory space required for omni-leveling. But that'd be a thing of pipedreams, obviously.

[BigCheez]

Had suggested a glamour system that was also a safety net, think I called it crystal library.

The short: gear can be compressed into materia (token) (naming convention: 'title of area' + 'materia'), in the library allows you to convert materia into other gear (like 3 - 5 to a gear or your choice), if you collect 1.5 materia * total gear in the zone you unlock all the glamours and converting future materia into gear is cheaper too. So you can get a glamour log, and for a little extra you can pull specific items (pull as in the literal item, that has stats). Materia can also be used for other things like quests, relics, and crafting.


So play the job you want, failing to get the item you want is fine, get the glamour / gear you want in the end. Also encourages collectors to run dungeons a few times lol. Due to the materia concept inventory management is easier (can compress items in content), and additionally provided a data friendly way to add glamours (a dungeon of 30 items becomes 1 variable).

They should just copy and paste WoW's transmog system. I think people would feel very differently about farming for gear if it was permanently added to their glamour collection without occupying finite storage after they got the drop.

[Shougun]

They should just copy and paste WoW's transmog system. I think people would feel very differently about farming for gear if it was permanently added to their glamour collection without occupying finite storage after they got the drop.

Yes, lol.


That above idea is attempting to be data friendly because they have said they have issues with large amounts of data. (Hence storing an entire dungeon as 1 variable, it's also why they are doing set storage).

[Ardeth]

They should just copy and paste WoW's transmog system. I think people would feel very differently about farming for gear if it was permanently added to their glamour collection without occupying finite storage after they got the drop.

What I want to know is if the armoire is infinite, then why isn't our dresser? What's different on the technical side between the two? Both are storing gear. I get one interacts with the glamour system, but it always struck me as odd one was infinite and one was finite.