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  1. #11
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    GTK0HLK's Avatar
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    Selene Halflight
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SXTC View Post
    Right now trial players can't:

    - Trade
    - Reply to private messages (or send them)
    - Join Free companies
    Amongst other choices.

    However this ruins the experience for a lot of trial players who because of this do not get a sense of community behavior which may be off putting to them. If they met people in game and made friends, they would be more likely to stick around and subscribe.

    I would say give them more options but limited so bot users can't abuse this:

    - Allow them to join FC's, but forbid them to actually own/start one.
    - Allow them to trade but only with people who are in their friendslist or FC.
    - Allow them to reply to private messages but only to people in friendlist or FC.

    I'm convinced that when people meet people that treat them with kindness, they will have a way better experience and the people they meet might even convince them to subscribe.
    Sadly there is too many problems with this.

    Say you wanted to add your own alts to a FC but don't know who to ask, just make a Alt, Invite it from a Free Account, then just add your main account alts.

    Or make a bunch of free accounts, and have them be in a FC By Themselves. take over buildings run by Free Trial Players once the Paying Account is gone.

    There is merit, but there is also the risk of opening new floodgates for issues. you'd need to really comb through all potential drawbacks. Which they might not even want to open up.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by SXTC View Post
    But to make the game too handicapped is to give new players the impression the game is supposed to work like that... flawed in design.
    It may potentially give the wrong impression and ruin the experience to the degree where you wouldn't subscribe.
    If they like the game, they'll subscribe.

    I'd argue that the free trial terms are well documented, they're not trying to mask anything that could ruin the experience.

    FFXIV Free Trial Terms

    Besides, as others have stated, it's not F2P, it's a trial, which is designed to give you a glimpse into what you can enhance by paying for it.

    You'll probably find that there's plenty of people out there who are content with what they have, restrictions or no.
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  3. #13
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    Veya Akemi
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    The two thing I would change is that I'd let free trial players A) use the /reply command as the way to be able to respond if they are directly addressed, and B) be able to receive items from other players, like a one-sided trade, they would still be a closed system in the sense nothing can leave, but they'd be able to accept more indirect help from other, willing service account players.
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  4. #14
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    Freja Heleh
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    Honestly one thing I don’t understand the restrictions for is pvp.
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  5. #15
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    Dodonko Herkkureisi
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    How about "trialists" just buy the game like normal people if they are enjoying it. It's a trial, not free to play.
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  6. #16
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    Selene Halflight
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    The two thing I would change is that I'd let free trial players A) use the /reply command as the way to be able to respond if they are directly addressed, and B) be able to receive items from other players, like a one-sided trade, they would still be a closed system in the sense nothing can leave, but they'd be able to accept more indirect help from other, willing service account players.
    Sounds Like A Drop Box Waiting to happen.

    Specially if the FC thing the OP wanted, occurs.

    It's kinda like the whole gifting players stuff from the mogstation.

    SE is the one ultimately responsible to make sure it can't be used for illicit things.

    But it's also players that need to stop buying from illicit sources.

    [Which sadly, enough players who don't care to actually enjoy the game as intended. Do that.]
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  7. #17
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongOfTheWind View Post
    Honestly one thing I don’t understand the restrictions for is pvp.
    That was a recent restriction. It was imposed as an emergency temporary measure in 2021:

    https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...6bd640829c1ae9
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  8. #18
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    Naomi Hallowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    That was a recent restriction. It was imposed as an emergency temporary measure in 2021:

    https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...6bd640829c1ae9
    The funniest parts of that post you sent :

    These persistent incidents involve a small number of individuals obtaining and exploiting more than 100 free trial accounts while intentionally changing their devices and setup. While we are considering systemic countermeasures, implementing them will require some time.
    Therefore, as a temporary emergency measure, we will be restricting free trial accounts from participating in PvP content.
    This restriction will be lifted after countermeasures have been implemented, so we ask for your continued patience and understanding.
    Just as a reminder, we are now in 2025, sure looks like it's "requiring some time".
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  9. #19
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    Freja Heleh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockworks View Post
    Just as a reminder, we are now in 2025, sure looks like it's "requiring some time".
    It’s ok, I am sure it is coming after the hats for viera and hrothgars
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  10. #20
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Giving Free trials trade is a bad idea. RMT use throw away accounts for advertising, moving gil and items. These accounts have subs that are paid with time cards, the cost means little to them of course. But giving free trials trade will allow RMT to ditch the time card cost and expand the number of throw accounts they have by a massive amount. It would become a throw account paradise for RMT's, if your intent is too make the RMT problem worse your on the right track.
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