Should SE scale high end content difficulty towards the usage of SIM ?

[AllenThyl]

Why even play a game, if playing the game itself is so unappealing? This is like letting ChatGPT write all assignments.

[CaedemSanguis]

Why even play a game, if playing the game itself is so unappealing? This is like letting ChatGPT write all assignments.

Even if people use SIM, they have fun progging

[Absurdity]

I also honestly don't see the issue with it, obviously it should not affect their content balancing since all that tool really does is let you practice mechanics on your own.
Is it a problem because you don't have to sit through 3 hours of party finder with people lying about their prog and wasting your time before you can actually practice the mechanic you need practice on?
Oh no, the horror.

You're still just practicing movement and you ultimately still need to do the real fight in-game.

[CaedemSanguis]

I also honestly don't see the issue with it, obviously it should not affect their content balancing since all that tool really does is let you practice mechanics on your own.
Is it a problem because you don't have to sit through 3 hours of party finder with people lying about their prog and wasting your time before you can actually practice the mechanic you need practice on?
Oh no, the horror.

You're still just practicing movement and you ultimately still need to do the real fight in-game.

The problem is that SIM makes the fight way easier overall to prog

[Absurdity]

The problem is that SIM makes the fight way easier overall to prog

Does it though?

The people who manage to do mechanics correctly in the SIM can clear them in the actual game just as well, it would just take them longer.

Because all the tool really does is cut out the all the time wasting, sitting in PF for hours waiting for parties to fill or wiping to earlier mechanics that your party should've easily solved already because someone lied.


So yeah, I guess it technically does make the fight easier to prog, by simply cutting out factors that would otherwise waste your time for zero gain and that you have little control over.
And in the end you still need to get into the game, get your party together and clear the fight for real, you just didn't spend 20+ hours extra to get to that point.

[CaedemSanguis]

Does it though?

Yeah, to me the "consistency" check + the pressure to do the prog point mechanic right is also a part of the prog

[Lilapop]

The problem is that SIM makes the fight way easier overall to prog

Of course, and then people would complain content is too easy and blame Square.

[CaedemSanguis]

Of course, and then people would complain content is too easy and blame Square.

Within or without SIM/3rd party tools, FRU/M1s-M4s are undertuned compared to DSR/TOP/P1s-P4s

[VerdeLuck]

No, 3rd party tools are not supported and shouldn't be. They were inadvertently since SE looks at clear data for balance but I think they've gotten smarter now.

Balancing around simulators and automarker or aoe showing boss mod plugins just makes the game less fun all around for anyone playing vanilla. Never, it should never be done and anyone who uses these should know they are throwing off the balance of the fights on purpose so they can get easier clears.

If it feels too easy it's 100% on them for installing tools that trivialize mechanics and parts of the difficulty.

[CaedemSanguis]

No, 3rd party tools are not supported and shouldn't be. They were inadvertently since SE looks at clear data for balance but I think they've gotten smarter now.

Balancing around simulators and automarker or aoe showing boss mod plugins just makes the game less fun all around for anyone playing vanilla. Never, it should never be done and anyone who uses these should know they are throwing off the balance of the fights on purpose so they can get easier clears.

If it feels too easy it's 100% on them for installing tools that trivialize mechanics and parts of the difficulty.

Well im playing on console, my static is not using SIM and I find FRU very easy compared to DSR/TOP

What I really want is very hard encounter, and since I see a lot of people using SIM, it will be good if SE balance HL content around those using SIM, so yeah the """difficulty""" will be much harder for vanilla players, and it will be the same for SIM users