Keep telling yourself you'll quit if this game doesnt get better

[Korbei]

People can still post in the forum after they've unsubbed for a while and during free login campaigns...

I'll pay for a sub when they can get 2 expansion cycles consistently right and fix all their major issues. So, never.

Yeah I've only subbed for 1 of the past 16 months, at the DT launch. It was a struggle to get a month's worth of value even with a brand new expansion. Pathetic. They don't even release New Game +... Incomprehensible. Stupid, lazy or straight up disrespectful of players time and money. All 3?

Every patch can easily be completed on a 4 day free login and there's usually a couple of them in each patch cycle. Why do any of you bother paying?

I don't need to keep telling myself I'll unsub. I keep telling myself they'll make it worth my subscription again one day.

[DynnDiablos]

It's hard to let go of a game I've spent 11 years of my life involved with. I can criticize and be upset with its direction and it no longer providing content I enjoy, but still struggle to completely quit and move on.

[Lilapop]

They do, and a big majority of the population of the game accepts anything SE does as holy gospel, that's why we are seeing barely anything ever fixed and issues going on for as long as since ARR.

A lot of the blame lies with Square, yes. But gamers will complain no matter what, in all fairness. Something is "fixed" that some people wanted fixed and other people didn't? The other half just starts complaining. The typical given criticism is "this bad, square bad LOL XD" doesn't make their life any easier, either.

[Zakuyia]

Part of me wonder....why not clear the stuff you havent done get it done since dt wont hold ur attention XD

[Sivante]

I think it's because not all content is for all folks. It becomes unreasonable for Square to expect people to pay a sub in order to do a thing they don't enjoy. Ultimately, I think square has kind of spread themselves thin trying to appeal to every possible player, which leads to players who enjoy specific things being kind of underwhelmed by content being drip fed or spread out. There's nothing wrong with folks looking around and saying 'Well, I did all I wanted to do, time to go do something else and drop my sub until they put in more stuff I want.'

Not to say you're trying to suggest people force themselves to do things mind you, but it's an argument I see often enough. Square has a hard job in that regard; how do you keep all the different types of players that you have drawn into the game happy? It's a rough scenario to face off against, particularly when other games specialize things and do them in superior fashions. Guild Wars 2 has excellent Net Code, events, and PVP, but their story is a bit lacking and the RP scene is non-existant. WoW does customization better, but is flooded with negative elements. Other MMO's as they come out will offer more and more modernized, niche content that will take away those niche gamers.

FFXIV is in the awkward 'trying to get them all' placement. Coupled with dated technology and an unwillingness to innovate or change from a tried-and-true method from a decade ago, they are being left behind by more modern approaches. Genshin Impact by the comparison has over 20 mil/month in revenue, and doesn't even have a sub. FFXIV (Factoring for 1 million players at 12$~ average sub) makes 12 mil a month, probably closer to 15~ with mogstation shenanigans and extra retainer fees, etc. They are already falling behind the revenue generation of free games, and that will only get worse.

This isn't to say I hate FFXIV or anything it's just monetarily, the business model is beginning to fail and can only get worse. Content wise, we've never seen content release this slow or drip-fed. The NetCode is still awkward, and the story is questionable for many. This kinda leaves people in a lurch, and as unsubs continue that revenue dive will continue. I want to see FFXIV succeed, I love the game, but it's difficult to justify paying for a game that is just dripping content and phoning in bonus material when its competitors are hungrily providing more modern, and more frequent content.

The revenue angle isn't just a problem for the people who are unsatisfied to crow about; the revenue loss will make it a problem for everyone in the community. This is why I find OP's sentiment so self-indicting. People leaving is good for no one; taunting them isn't sensible to do.

TL-DR; As Yoshi has said, not all content is for all folks. Some of us have already cleared the stuff we're interested in. But I hope others do follow your advice, if there's content left they haven't cleared yet.

[Kaurhz]

Part of me wonder....why not clear the stuff you havent done get it done since dt wont hold ur attention XD

Simple question, a simple answer... A game this size should be able to develop content across the board to the biggest demographics this game holds. A game of this size drip feeding content in this matter is disappointing at best.

Your proposal is essentially the same as me turning around to other players later in the expansion cycle, when they are starving for the content they want, and saying...
1. Why don't you do all levequests the game has to offer?
2. Why don't you do 3000 S Ranks, and 10,000 A-Ranks (That Endless Hunt title tho)
3. Why don't you go spend a good hundred hours in Diadem and a further 30-50 hours spam crafting for the Pteranodon mount.
4. Why don't you go win several hundred Frontline matches, and a thousand Rival Wings.
5. Why don't you go do Necromancer, and by the way enjoy the hamsters running the place, praying that you don't DC.
6. Why don't you go do every sightseeing log.
7. Why don't you go do the fishing log.
8. Why don't you go do Bozja all over again, I mean you can still get 10/10/10 Resistance Honors, right?

[Darko]

It's hard to let go of a game I've spent 11 years of my life involved with. I can criticize and be upset with its direction and it no longer providing content I enjoy, but still struggle to completely quit and move on.

Same. I decided after DT to give it one year. Square deserves that much after all this time.

[Roehann]

Some of us don't like the direction the game is going and show it in different ways.. Not subbing the extra retainers and app cuts their profits in half. Not buying ANYTHING from the shop cuts into their profit.

Just because someone pays the minimum to keep an active account bc of friends of a house doesn't mean they are not doing other things that cut into the profits. I personally don't sub my retainers or the app and have stopped buying from the shop.

In the past when I was happy with the game I have ALL the retainers, the app and constantly bought things from the shop knowing it was look nice in game but also that is helped them make money to grow and develop the game more.

Sometimes the biggest break in profits are from places you can't see them happening.. It's not a lot, but when you go from 33 USD per month plus shop items to 12.99 USD per month, it adds up..

[Zakuyia]

I mean sure but how many ppl completed sight logs fishing triple triads collecting mounts minions doing arr heaven ward stormblood shadow bringer endwalker relics palace of dead heaven on high eureka orthos hell unlock the mounts in gold saucer unlocked all fate zones completed arr - endwalker beast tribes thats just to name a few things to do.

[yesnt]

Simple question, a simple answer... A game this size should be able to develop content across the board to the biggest demographics this game holds. A game of this size drip feeding content in this matter is disappointing at best.

Your proposal is essentially the same as me turning around to other players later in the expansion cycle, when they are starving for the content they want, and saying...
1. Why don't you do all levequests the game has to offer?
2. Why don't you do 3000 S Ranks, and 10,000 A-Ranks (That Endless Hunt title tho)
3. Why don't you go spend a good hundred hours in Diadem and a further 30-50 hours spam crafting for the Pteranodon mount.
4. Why don't you go win several hundred Frontline matches, and a thousand Rival Wings.
5. Why don't you go do Necromancer, and by the way enjoy the hamsters running the place, praying that you don't DC.
6. Why don't you go do every sightseeing log.
7. Why don't you go do the fishing log.
8. Why don't you go do Bozja all over again, I mean you can still get 10/10/10 Resistance Honors, right?

Right? You can only use one title at the same time. Only sit on one mount. Only summon one minion. I don't know what's the point of clearing every possible farm in the game when the gameplay itself is stale. Plus friends are unsubbing, so it's not even worth it for the sake of socializing. There had been so many possibilities to introduce new gameplay in DT, several suggestions from the playerbase to improve the game.

Currently housing is the only thing preventing me from leaving. If I unsubscribe, my house is gone. And if my house is gone, I'm not comming back. Losing my house is a deal breaker and because of that, I'm not taking a break even though there is currently nothing interesting for me to do. I'm basically paying a housing subscription at this point ^_^.

This also means that I will not come back if all my designs and all my housing items are gone.

I feel this. I have two FCs and personal housing for RP, because that kept me very entertained. I'd hate to lose it and that's the only reason I am still subbed. But also, once I let go, I am not going to grind from scratch for a new FC, plots and Gil. Perhaps I would get a trial account for RP, but then I would also only log in to max my MSQ and RP.