Keep telling yourself you'll quit if this game doesnt get better

[BigCheez]

Is this your first MMO?

People invest huge amounts of time and money into these types of games. The achievements, mounts, minions, gear, glamour, social network, etc. that they collect over time represent that investment and it's fairly normal for people to not want to move on and leave them behind.

The point at which the state of the game becomes bad enough to outweigh the sunk cost will vary from player to player but everyone has a breaking point. Once they reach it, they will move on and get settled somewhere else, at which point it becomes very difficult to get them back.

This is essentially what happened in WoW. People stuck it out through WoD and BFA before things finally got bad enough in Shadowlands that people just weren't willing to stick around any more. 6.1-6.5 was pretty dire. Dawntrail hasn't been great so far. If things haven't improved by 8.0 then I really don't think it's looking good for XIV.

[ExiaKuromonji]

But you won't

LOL

Dog this isn't the 500 IQ take you think it is. This is the exact same nonsense people were saying in WoW. And guess what. People left WoW. That's why it has 4 different versions of the game running at the moment to keep players hooked.

And in before sexual harassment lawsuit take. WoW was hemorrhaging players long before this happened.

[Ardeth]

Dog this isn't the 500 IQ take you think it is. This is the exact same nonsense people were saying in WoW. And guess what. People left WoW. That's why it has 4 different versions of the game running at the moment to keep players hooked.

And in before sexual harassment lawsuit take. WoW was hemorrhaging players long before this happened.

Also, to add a large and I mean large chunk of that playerbase didn't follow that news and didn't believe it happened. Free Hong Kong and the breastmilk situation went over all my old Wow friend's heads. Either blissfully ignorant or willingly, they all chugged on. When everyone left, they noticed, but the game had to fall off a cliff first.

[kentribal]

Dog this isn't the 500 IQ take you think it is. This is the exact same nonsense people were saying in WoW. And guess what. People left WoW. That's why it has 4 different versions of the game running at the moment to keep players hooked.

And in before sexual harassment lawsuit take. WoW was hemorrhaging players long before this happened.

Regarding the WoW you're referring to, I'll say this: it started to go downhill when Activision came in and Bobby came back and told them he wanted to make money. What I mean is that a company came in that only cared about money and so with the failed and quick changes, WoW reached the point where it is now. Now they've brought Chris Metzen back again so they can save it with a 3-triple story expansion.But the next expansion was disappointing for me from its trailer.I want to conclude that SE and Blizz, instead of seeing the people who pay the subscription and spend thousands of hours online and share their thoughts on the forums as investors, see them as customers and bring in invalid investors who either have no idea about mmo or simply want to sleep and have an excessive amount of money from sales, etc., deposited into their account every 5 minutes.

[Avoidy]

But you won't

LOL

I mean, anyone capable of posting here pretty much has to be subbed. If you log out for 14 days, your forum account won't let you sign in anymore. 99% of the people you are talking to can only reply back because they are subbed. This forum guarantees that you are incapable of talking to someone who quit.
I absolutely unsubbed though. This game was offering me nothing that I enjoyed gameplay-wise, so I quit. The only reason I can even post this is because I logged on yesterday through the free login period.

[Clockworks]

I mean, anyone capable of posting here pretty much has to be subbed. If you log out for 14 days, your forum account won't let you sign in anymore. 99% of the people you are talking to can only reply back because they are subbed. This forum guarantees that you are incapable of talking to someone who quit.
I absolutely unsubbed though. This game was offering me nothing that I enjoyed gameplay-wise, so I quit. The only reason I can even post this is because I logged on yesterday through the free login period.

You still add to the population numbers by the way by using the free login period. So you are giving them the boost they need to pretend that the game is doing okay.

[Avoidy]

You still add to the population numbers by the way by using the free login period. So you are giving them the boost they need to pretend that the game is doing okay.

I have looooooooong since given up on SE being moved enough to do anything to fix their issues. It's part of why I finally just left. At this point, as long as they're not getting my money that's all I care about.

[Drayvexx]

You are wrong though. Yes there are reasons to keep subs. Its mostly FOMO for events and PvP pass, and so they don't lose housing. Without those reasons, people will easily cancel sub and wait till next expansion or even longer. I log on to do Frontline, and step into FC house every day. Its a daily chore for me. I wouldn't even do that, but I am the FC leader and my one sub lets everyone else drop theirs while we play other shit.

[TaleraRistain]

While there probably is a measure of sunken cost fallacy in some cases, I think you're also underestimating the power of hope. Someone loved something about the game before. They desperately want it back. So they keep waiting and hoping. It's a powerful emotion.

I'm not at that point with XIV but I can empathize because for me it's the Assassin's Creed series. I just can't seem to completely let it go, even when I know I probably should. I just keep hoping to see the things I miss come back. So I completely get it for anyone who is like that with XIV.

[Kazuke_Miso]

You are wrong though. Yes there are reasons to keep subs. Its mostly FOMO for events and PvP pass, and so they don't lose housing. Without those reasons, people will easily cancel sub and wait till next expansion or even longer. I log on to do Frontline, and step into FC house every day. Its a daily chore for me. I wouldn't even do that, but I am the FC leader and my one sub lets everyone else drop theirs while we play other shit.

Aka you fell for the traps that SE deliberately engineered into the game