Inviting players to the Novice Network

[Jeeqbit]

NN 99% of the time is either dead or its few attention seeking mentors jorking each other off so nothing of value was lost and would not be lost if they outright deleted it.

Extremely anecdotal perspective. I've met thousands upon thousands of sprouts who love the Novice Network so much that they do not want to leave, but are forced to when they reach the next expansion. I've answered thousands of sprout and returner questions over the years, who regularly thank me for the help.

That all wouldn't happen without it...

[Purrnauskis]

Extremely anecdotal perspective. I've met thousands upon thousands of sprouts who love the Novice Network so much that they do not want to leave, but are forced to when they reach the next expansion. I've answered thousands of sprout and returner questions over the years, who regularly thank me for the help.

That all wouldn't happen without it...

Yea, they don't wanna leave it because where would they jork each other off then?

[Jeeqbit]

Yea, they don't wanna leave it because where would they jork each other off then?

Just because some humans are like that does not mean all of them are. Dismissing the Novice Network as that but not the entirety of life - real life, the forums, everywhere - as that, is strange.

[Purrnauskis]

Just because some humans are like that does not mean all of them are. Dismissing the Novice Network as that but not the entirety of life - real life, the forums, everywhere - as that, is strange.

It is a well known fact people get the easier mentor just so they can go back to NN and jork each other off. They are not there to be helpful nor to be helped.


Even worse in EU because Sqenix never made containment servers for certain nationalities like WoW and any other game does.

[Valence]

Just work harder and your NN will be fine. I went on Spriggan, it was a nice NN but very quiet precisely because no mentor actually bothers to do their job, like on most NNs.
Do your jobs, invite players, be friendly and welcoming, and foster a community. You'd be surprised.

[VeyaAkemi]

Just work harder and your NN will be fine. I went on Spriggan, it was a nice NN but very quiet precisely because no mentor actually bothers to do their job, like on most NNs.
Do your jobs, invite players, be friendly and welcoming, and foster a community. You'd be surprised.

Unironically the reason I don't frequent NN is cuz of how chat works, we are limited to 4 chat tabs, okay, one is general chat which is usually swarmed by various system messages, one is Battle Log, one is "Event" to focus on NPC dialogue, and one, for me, is "Party", which I dedicate to FC, Alliance and Party chat... and that's it, I can't have a 5th chat tab dedicated to NN, since all my tabs are already taken by things I want to be there, so I just stay out of it entirely.

Ideally I'd have the cap at 8 tabs, I totally could use 8 tabs, 4 is far too few.

[Valence]

Unironically the reason I don't frequent NN is cuz of how chat works, we are limited to 4 chat tabs, okay, one is general chat which is usually swarmed by various system messages, one is Battle Log, one is "Event" to focus on NPC dialogue, and one, for me, is "Party", which I dedicate to FC, Alliance and Party chat... and that's it, I can't have a 5th chat tab dedicated to NN, since all my tabs are already taken by things I want to be there, so I just stay out of it entirely.

Ideally I'd have the cap at 8 tabs, I totally could use 8 tabs, 4 is far too few.

You can rebrand the logs and event tabs to whatever fits your bill and turn them into your favorite channels.
But I do agree that everything when it comes to the UI feels like we're still in the 90s.

[sindriiisgaming]

As part of the duties of accepting mentorship, we are instructed to invite players to the NN using the Player Search function - however there is one colossal flaw that I feel massively degrades the mentorship experience.

• The person you invite can both see who invited them, AND send them a tell.

This has led to me receiving *numerous* unpleasant /tell's over inviting people, nothing outwardly offensive enough to warrant reporting, but enough that inviting people feels like a chore.

If SE could consider removing that information from the invite prompt, it would at least spare me from people on alt characters from being able to verbally harass me for doing as I have been asked.

Other flaws with the system have been discussed at length, such as NN being the default channel for sprouts, not making sprouts aware that the system even exists, not having the ability to remove mentors or sprouts who are persistent in degrading the quality of conversation deliberately etc. however I feel like after 10 years, the system is largely abandoned by the Devs and we are left alone to deal with a poor implementation of what could be a genuinely helpful tool.

Mentorship Is not a job its an achievement. The nn is rarley helpful and most ft / sprouts are educated on it. Do not go around spam inviting randoms to nn. Instead wait and see who asks for an invite. You just put a target on u like this

[Buttobi]

Half the comments on this thread completely missing the point that the game tells you to invite people. No one should feel like a target of harassment for following basic game instructions.

[Valence]

You don't even need to be a font of knowledge to help new players. Telling them where and when they can unlock their chocobo (one the biggest questions of all times in NN) isn't exactly rocket science.
And even then, you don't even need to reply to questions if you're not sure of yourself or unwilling to, someone else will do it and that's why there isn't just one mentor, they all have their specialties. I know a lot of sprouts turned mentors that just PARTICIPATE into the chat, talk to new players, or run content with them, and that is already invaluable, more than all the ghosts that park in the chat and never say or do anything.