Re: Regarding the Use of Third-Party Programs and Player Safety

[EunJuAnna]

Thats true but still it would be more use if ppl leave. Just go if you dont like it instead of taking a crowbar and change the game on your end. If really enough leave for it SE will do something, or you find something else.

Just modding the game and accept it as is wont help a bit.

Im playing 10 years now and ive never EVER needed or wanted a mod, or any kind of cheat. Just play the game or dont play it.

k enjoy ur even longer queue times

[Fatch38]

k enjoy ur even longer queue times

funny because back in ARR never waited more than 10 min to join a dungeon as a dps (was instant as a tank and under 5 min as a healer), so we can tell it won't affect queues

[EunJuAnna]

funny because back in ARR never waited more than 10 min to join a dungeon as a dps (was instant as a tank and under 5 min as a healer), so we can tell it won't affect queues

half the player base dropping off won't affect queues? lol. we are not in ARR anymore.

[Fatch38]

half the player base dropping off won't affect queues? lol. we are not in ARR anymore.

if half the playerbase play barbie online/sl and treat the game as a h-game, we have a greater problem than queues (and you probably miss the point that half the current playerbase is litterally whole ARR playerbase)

[Kuroka]

if half the playerbase play barbie online/sl and treat the game as a h-game, we have a greater problem than queues (and you probably miss the point that half the current playerbase is litterally whole ARR playerbase)

This. Pretending like this is secondlife and even 1/4 of those players actually play - even those wo do, who fully engage with everything the game has to offer AND defend themselfs here are for sure just a minority...

And too many come because of plugins, not the game...

A paid subscription game should not have third-party programs/tools connected to the game. I pay for the game how it is, not for cheaters who cannot wait for a queue e.g.

I will welcome the day when there is anti cheat installed so none of those tools will be working anymore. Will e.g. halve of the players quit? I don't care and will not miss players that try to cheat.

Wasnt there even an addon to tell you your roulett dungeon before you enter so you may skip what you dont like...?

[Absurdity]

Wasnt there even an addon to tell you your roulett dungeon before you enter so you may skip what you dont like...?

There was. My assumption is that it functioned in a similar way in that each instance is assigned a unique ID and the ACT plugin could read the packet containing the ID whenever your roulette queue popped and tell you which dungeon it belonged to.
And then at some point during Stormblood SE did seemingly managed to obscure that ID, making it impossible to know which dungeon you got.

Why they couldn't do that for the account ID is anyone's guess.

Because this is ultimately the only thing that will fix this, even an anti-cheat is only a bandaid when you can just capture the network traffic without even touching the game client.

[EunJuAnna]

if half the playerbase play barbie online/sl and treat the game as a h-game, we have a greater problem than queues (and you probably miss the point that half the current playerbase is litterally whole ARR playerbase)

and you miss the fact that there's waaaay more duties for the queues to support. doesn't matter if the player base is the same size, when there's like 4x the amount of duties now than there were before.

[Dirk_Jongeh]

A paid subscription game should not have third-party programs/tools connected to the game. I pay for the game how it is, not for cheaters who cannot wait for a queue e.g.

I will welcome the day when there is anti cheat installed so none of those tools will be working anymore. Will e.g. halve of the players quit? I don't care and will not miss players that try to cheat.

Even if you use it for glamour ends and think it will be look better on the game or maybe it is better for the game, create your own game is my advise.

[Daralii]

I'm increasingly convinced that SE's statement was actually genius. Everyone's arguing with each other about plugins, which are an almost entirely separate issue, instead of dogpiling SE for their astounding incompetence.

[Fatch38]

I'm increasingly convinced that SE's statement was actually genius. Everyone's arguing with each other about plugins, which are an almost entirely separate issue, instead of dogpiling SE for their astounding incompetence.

do "not even trying" count as incompetence ?