Re: Regarding the Use of Third-Party Programs and Player Safety

[seolhyun]

even if they fix this plugin there's no telling what else people will come up with. maybe its time SE takes their game seriously. ppl been cheating, botting, modding, rampantly for years and yoship doesnt care .

[illutian]

Why would it be awful and convoluted? How is this different from the checks that need to take place if you try to enter someone's house and they have access set to friends only? Do you think the game sends you someone's entire friend list to check if you're on the list? It isn't awful or convoluted, it's incredibly simple and basic.

Honestly...it might.

From my understanding with the Glamour system we broadcast all 20 plates to everyone in the vicinity, and there's a "flag" that tells THEIR client which plate to actually show. But you still get all 20 plates.

So, if this is true, it seems SE can't get FF14 to send only 'select data' to other clients.

[Neoyoshi]

By internal account ID; do they mean the login ID? or just the lodestone character number?

[Collin_Sky]

By internal account ID; do they mean the login ID? or just the lodestone character number?

No, it is a separate ID number that's only purpose is for the severs to internally recognize your account.

[TheDustyOne]

By internal account ID; do they mean the login ID? or just the lodestone character number?

A separate number that gets generated with your account. It won't give access to things like login credentials, card details, etc. But since it's tied to your account, it's something that's shared with your alts. Ideally this number shouldn't be shared outside of Squares servers, as while it won't give anything major, it's still a unique identifier that goes with you regardless of what character you're on, which in turn makes it a marker for stalkers if you made a new character to get away from someone.

[Absurdity]

Wasnt there even an addon to tell you your roulett dungeon before you enter so you may skip what you dont like...?

There was. My assumption is that it functioned in a similar way in that each instance is assigned a unique ID and the ACT plugin could read the packet containing the ID whenever your roulette queue popped and tell you which dungeon it belonged to.
And then at some point during Stormblood SE did seemingly managed to obscure that ID, making it impossible to know which dungeon you got.

Why they couldn't do that for the account ID is anyone's guess.

Because this is ultimately the only thing that will fix this, even an anti-cheat is only a bandaid when you can just capture the network traffic without even touching the game client.

[EunJuAnna]

we need to keep pressure up. the root networking issue needs to be corrected, this is an unacceptable error from SE.

my sub has been cancelled and will not be renewed until account ID's are no longer sent client side in order for the bl to function, or the ID's are encrypted.

if that means I never play again, so be it.

[Ne_Ya]

i really hope they will do something this time, it was bad before but the recent situation just made it a whole lot worse and it makes me uncomfortable.

[EunJuAnna]

bumping again.

[Kaurhz]

i really hope they will do something this time, it was bad before but the recent situation just made it a whole lot worse and it makes me uncomfortable.

I actually thought this would be a wake up call and one of the few situations where SE would actually turn around and acknowledge the issue on their part, but clearly I was misguided in that optimism.

They won't ever lift a finger beyond making a statement which invokes a clause ToS that they are too afraid to actually follow through on, even in situations where it is absolutely justified to do so.

The even worse thing is that it will get worse, because all they have demonstrated in the 20 days since this became 'public knowledge', is that they are siding with inaction. Sure, they may request a takedown... Sure they may pursue the situation legally, but are they going to patch the system which made this possible (or revert it)? - Based on the response, I don't think they will. - After this settles, we'll just be waiting for the next invasive tool that someone creates.. Which if you ask my opinion, absolutely will be worse than this.

At this point my last sliver of hope is that they just aren't communicating until they come up with a solution, but across the 20 days, and not actually making a formal statement on the lodestone, it doesn't set a good tone for my hope.