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  1. #1
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    Cenobia's Avatar
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    Cenobia Vigantzky
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 97

    What even was that capstone questline?

    Firstly, the positives: the instanced fight was fun, and the concept of someone denied freedom becoming an extremist is not a bad idea. You can make a really gripping, tragic story with that.

    So what in the seven hells happened? The writing ranged from nonsensical to insulting, more than once flashing back to things that were explained in detail less than five minutes beforehand. I'd say that it's like the writing is for five year olds, only that it also feels like it was written BY five year olds! Every character ranges from indistinguishably bland (I dare anyone to pick them apart without the names in the text boxes) to seemingly brain-damaged. This expansion just keeps managing to make me skip cutscenes in a game where I hadn't skipped a single one before, even on alts.

    Where did the wires get crossed? How does "Lighthearted" mean "absolutely devoid of charm, intelligence or quality"? I get that the concept was to make them comedic villains, but do you know who pulled that off? Hildibrand! I laughed out loud so many times at the utter insanity of the Hildibrand questlines, and that's not even limiting it to the animations!

    In fact, for as much as the team apparently complains about having no ideas for Hildibrand, the short quest we've gotten so far has been some of the least bad writing in the entire expansion, sharing that dubious honour with the Arcadion quests. Why are those the only decent writing in this entire traincrash, Yoshi P? Is NO ONE doing quality control at all anymore? Does ANYONE even do a final check in any of this?

    I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here!
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    It was good while it lasted.

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    Chasingstars's Avatar
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    Gentle Sunflower
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    Mateus
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    I died of second-hand embarrassment from the pose alone. Also title is weird, Sweet Justice.
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    Stormy Bolt
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 100
    The capstone questline as well as the role quests as a whole confuse me.

    The overall premise of it had promise. Like you said, the idea of someone who decided to go against traditions and make their own path gets punished and feels wronged, thus they want to take revenge on society. It's honestly a cool bit of insight into Viera lore too. I like the idea of it, but they just screwed it up so badly. There is a lot of potential there for a good story that a lot of people might be able to relate to and sympathize with the antagonist. For a game that has had villains range from people who will do anything to liberate their homeland from oppressors to people simply trying to bring back their friends and family they really dropped the ball here.

    I can't quite recall what motives the other antagonists had, the only one I vaguely remember was the Elezen lady who fell asleep while on duty and was punished for it. Then developed a fear of sleep, I guess that's an okay concept. And I can't remember the others except for the Lalafell guy and Hyur Lady who I believe just wanted to cause chaos with no real motive.

    The issue I felt was that the writers have no clue if they want the questline to be goofy and silly or for us to take it all seriously. We get a almost endearing chat with Apyaahi, get to know them a little bit. It even plays sappy music like with a lot of other characters, so they want to get players to care. Then they make there be wacky "Don't eat that food!" dialogue. It's just odd. They should make it one or the other (preferably serious) not that weird mix of both. It makes the pacing feel off.

    The solo duty IMO was okay I suppose. I was hoping for a duty to take place on the bridge and I guess I shouldn't be surprised it's just a long hallway. I definitely think the boss could've used a few more attacks rather the...two maybe three attacks it has. The music shift halfway through was definitely unwarranted though, I'm not sure if they really thought that it was such an EPIC and COOL moment that it called for that music. (The dawntrail trailer music)

    But yea, I am overall let down by the role quests and capstone story line. There was a lot of potential there that was just wasted. Good ideas that seem to have been used as toilet paper in a sense.

    We can only hope that things improve on the writing side of things. I enjoyed the Raid storyline and now I'm fearful for how they might screw it up come 7.2.
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    Last edited by St0rmy; 01-22-2025 at 12:32 PM.

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    Lila Pop
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    Faerie
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Let's not encourage beating over the dead horse that is hildi.
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    Giddy Moonshine
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    Sophia
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    Bard Lv 55
    I actually really enjoyed this quest. I like that Apyaahi is an idiot, I like that she does the wrong things for the right reasons. I especially like that people try to explain to her how the real world works and I like that it gets completely over her head. It's a pretty realistic personality, because she is flawed and cringe. Makes a lot of sense for someone who grew up in an entirely different society and struggles to adjust to a new reality. I am glad it's not this power-of-friendship-fixes-everything-crap again.

    The humor is for sure not for everyone. I think it was okay.

    I did not enjoy the role quests, though, they were way too long, repetitive and just lame. Apyaahi should have been involved to really build this whole story. The role quests feel like filler.
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    Malia Tri'el
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    The message of the quest left, and how my character's part in the story was handled -- especially with some of the dialog options left a really bad taste in my mouth. Please don't do something like this again.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Did they really have to narrow down our dialogue choices to

    “People like you don’t deserve to be free”

    And

    “I will never be on your side”

    Like I get it’s a Japanese RPG but this rigid adherence to the flawed state and barely disguised incrementalism is getting really tiring
    (19)
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  8. #8
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    M'yahrah Raha
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    Exodus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    I thought it was alright. Not great, but not bad either.

    Maybe a poor match for role quests, though.

    Missed opportunity to be a villain for a day.
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  9. #9
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Wait people still expect good writing from the team that brought us Wuk Wuk Binks's wacky adventures?
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  10. #10
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    Eri Amano
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I don't like the how the end of the questline had Apyaahi make some legitimate points only for it to segway into a joke about her not wanting to pay for a room. The fact that it played funny music while she was talking about how she had her belongings stolen while she was living on the streets (which is something that happens to homeless people in real life) felt rather mean-spirited.

    Sorry for getting political or whatever, but it kind of felt like the writer for this questline was trying to make an anarchist character while not understanding what that ideology actually means. If the intention was to make her a LARPer, then it would be funnier to me, but I don't think that was the intention here.
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