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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    DC travel inside the game is complicated, to be fair. I mean it would be complicated whatever game did it. It's possible, but they would need to prevent your character from writing any data while it's happening, such as by having you in an indefinite loading screen. This is because it is actively copy+pasting your character data to another data center, potentially on the other side of the world in some cases.

    The glamour dresser thing on the other hand is silly. There are lots of ways to code that without causing issues, and it could even be done independent of the server - such as by storing this information on a cloud server that the client retrieves from. When you choose what you want, you could just tell the server "I want to wear that today". There actually isn't a good excuse for that.

    The queue isn't fake when you login. It's just processing logins 1 at a time. I can accept their reasoning for this - it's probably safer to make sure there aren't conflicts when loading characters. What bothers me is that, from what I can tell, SE doesn't seem to use any multi-threading at all. While it has risks, I guarantee it is possible for them to do - and good programmers should be able to do it without those risks coming true.

    To give an example of the lack of multi-threading: knockbacks. If you see 100 people get knocked back at a hunt, you see 32 people very, very slowly get knocked back, one at a time, over about 10 seconds. It's incredibly slow and I can't see a good reason for it in 2025. There wouldn't have been a good reason for it 10 years ago. Same with raid buffs. Computers aren't that slow, and I certainly hope they aren't when they have all these running several zones each:

    It is literally their job to do "complicated" things.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherHighlander View Post
    It is literally their job to do "complicated" things.
    I didn't say it wasn't. But it makes sense for the initial release of DC travel that they did it that way.

    But anyway, as I said they clearly aren't great programmers or hardly touch their code so it's a wonder they achieved DC travel at all.
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  3. #53
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    I'm not a regular of the forums, but you who defend the shortcomings of SQenix have to agree on that FFXIV feels older than World of Warcraft although the game since ARR is several years younger.

    While particularly WoW and GW2 have innovated on their games over time, yes even GW2 which recieves next to no funding, FFXIV is stuck in ARR world design with a open world that has nothing going for it outside of MSQ, combat gameplay that plays like a mix between Vanilla WoW and Guild Wars 1 - slow and non-snappy.

    While I love FFXIV it would benefit greatly from a complete upgrade from combat systems to character creator open world etc etc which again, it's competitors and again; even GW2 manages to do although GW2 is semi maintenance mode nowadays.

    Why can GW2, a game with next to no funding continue to innovate while SQENIX; a billion dollar company can't?
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrnauskis View Post
    And we still cannot whisper people who are in a duty,properly cross-server let alone DC.

    We still have to travel DC in a very awkward way through main menu.

    We still cannot place a glam dresser in our houses.

    We still have a fake que everytime we login.

    And more. Can Sqenix take us to 2025 finally? We always hear the same excuse about engine limitations or spaghetti code but it is really no excuse. WoW has used the same engine since 2004 and upgraded it overtime when needed, it has cross-faction and cross-realm que,whispers and everything. Heck, u can even transmog where ever u want whenever u want.

    I wonder where does all the sub money go? Some races still don't have hats and we are on an extremely long patch cycle with dripfed content.
    cannot blacklist player because "player couldn't be found"
    have to go to players world
    have to psearch him
    add to BL
    Nice, now im a stalker

    same nonsense with sending a tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    yet again a we dont have hats crybaby, i really hope square deceides in the future to blow off the whole hats for viera/hrothgar thing and say "they will never add hats for it accept it or race change" would be great really great

    and yea its fine for me because square stated clearly they wont add it and i accept it, because its such a small feature i really dont care about it at all
    stop trashing on the small indie company!!!

    clown
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldtagg View Post
    I'm not a regular of the forums, but you who defend the shortcomings of SQenix have to agree on that FFXIV feels older than World of Warcraft although the game since ARR is several years younger.
    WoW came out in 2004, so even if we went with XIV's age from the point of 1.0 WoW is still significantly older.
    I did the 20th anniversary event in WoW back in December and even that was a night and day difference.

    It had it's own little hub in front of the Caverns of Time, minigames, weekly quests with upscaled old world bosses, a bunch of rewards new and old, visually upgraded Tier 2 armor sets to unlock as glamour for every class (even the ones added after vanilla), a bunch of questlines that sent you mystery solving, an extremely long hidden mystery questline involving puzzles and scavenger hunting that ultimately rewarded you with a mount, Blackrock Depths revamped as a 25man raid with completely new mechanics and I probably forgot something.
    Sure, most of it was old assets but you could clearly see that they put in the work to make something great for their anniversary.

    Meanwhile XIV's 10th anniversary had a bunch of interviews, articles and contests, but the actual in-game event was some moogle tomestone farm and a 10 minute quest that gave you a mount and some adventurer plate stuff. Instead it tried to sell you a lot of irl merch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldtagg View Post
    While particularly WoW and GW2 have innovated on their games over time, yes even GW2 which recieves next to no funding, FFXIV is stuck in ARR world design with a open world that has nothing going for it outside of MSQ
    I'd argue the world design has actually regressed since ARR. You have less small detail since the zones are much bigger, most of it wasted space, less random NPCs filling the zones, houses are just window dressing and can't be entered. The zones certainly look prettier but they're even more lifeless.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 01-24-2025 at 07:50 PM.

  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrnauskis View Post
    And we still cannot whisper people who are in a duty,properly cross-server let alone DC.

    We still have to travel DC in a very awkward way through main menu.

    We still cannot place a glam dresser in our houses.

    We still have a fake que everytime we login.

    And more. Can Sqenix take us to 2025 finally? We always hear the same excuse about engine limitations or spaghetti code but it is really no excuse. WoW has used the same engine since 2004 and upgraded it overtime when needed, it has cross-faction and cross-realm que,whispers and everything. Heck, u can even transmog where ever u want whenever u want.

    I wonder where does all the sub money go? Some races still don't have hats and we are on an extremely long patch cycle with dripfed content.
    ... and people still find excuses for them not doing anything cause parasocial shenaningan with dev team
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    WoW came out in 2004, so even if we went with XIV's age from the point of 1.0 WoW is still significantly older.
    I did the 20th anniversary event in WoW back in December and even that was a night and day difference.

    It had it's own little hub in front of the Caverns of Time, minigames, weekly quests with upscaled old world bosses, a bunch of rewards new and old, visually upgraded Tier 2 armor sets to unlock as glamour for every class (even the ones added after vanilla), a bunch of questlines that sent you mystery solving, an extremely long hidden mystery questline involving puzzles and scavenger hunting that ultimately rewarded you with a mount, Blackrock Depths revamped as a 25man raid with completely new mechanics and I probably forgot something.
    Sure, most of it was old assets but you could clearly see that they put in the work to make something great for their anniversary.

    Meanwhile XIV's 10th anniversary had a bunch of interviews, articles and contests, but the actual in-game event was some moogle tomestone farm and a 10 minute quest that gave you a mount and some adventurer plate stuff. Instead it tried to sell you a lot of irl merch.


    I'd argue the world design has actually regressed since ARR. You have less small detail since the zones are much bigger, most of it wasted space, less random NPCs filling the zones, houses are just window dressing and can't be entered. The zones certainly look prettier but they're even more lifeless.
    True and real!

    I still love the game, but I won't pretend these issues doesn't exist.

    If anyone can do a Final Fantasy themed MMORPG with the snappy combat and innovations of Guild Wars 2 combined with the world scope and (the good) systems of World of Warcraft - that would be my dream MMORPG.

    Ironically, the mobile FFXIV game (which prob will be filled to the brim with scummy MTX that will destroy it) looks way better than the desktop/console version in terms of QoL, combat and UI/maps.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I believe because it's "technically" considered a cutscene or has some cutscene-related flags set.
    Why can't I accept party invites while in cutscene?
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    In a way, they already do. A Paladin, for example, can wear (not transmogrify) a Big Blue Dress.

    WoW has had transmogrification for nearly 15 years and still won't let you transmogrify plate mail to look like cloth armor. Why would they start now?
    Yeah, u can't do it directly from Plate -> cloth but since there are a ton of transmog items without armor classification u can still be a warrior running around in a dress.

    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
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    the WoW anniversary was pretty badly handled and rushed because of their patch cycle I assume but it had a lot of cool stuff at the very least with timewalking and iconic tiersets alongside the new ones. The Chromie time mode was basically broken and completely unfinished.

    Still a lot more work, effort and actual ideas went into it than FFXIV anni.
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    Last edited by Purrnauskis; 01-24-2025 at 09:40 PM.

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