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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrnauskis View Post
    Yeah, blacklist doesn't exist. SE is like a helicopter parent that needs to save the FFXIV players from any kind of minor conflict that might send them into a panic attack
    Prevention is better than cure though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Prevention is better than cure though.
    Not really when it comes at a cost and with such a weird reasoning
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  3. #13
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    Glamourdresser is something they stated in the past that they will not add it and its fine for me

    whispering someone in a dungeon is kinda pointless just wait until he is out

    crossrealm pf etc etc is something i really hope they add in the future, it would mean more groups and more possiblitys for stuff, thats something i really really want
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    Glamourdresser is something they stated in the past that they will not add it and its fine for me

    whispering someone in a dungeon is kinda pointless just wait until he is out

    crossrealm pf etc etc is something i really hope they add in the future, it would mean more groups and more possiblitys for stuff, thats something i really really want
    "its fine for me" DogSittingInTheMiddleOfFlames.jpg

    This is why we don't have hats for vieras/hroth and why the game is in decline.
    People accept below average until they dont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrnauskis View Post
    No. No it really is not.
    Yes it is. It's copying your data and they need to prevent you from modifying your data while it is being copied. That means rendering you unable to move or do anything, and transfering the session over to the new data center and world. Needless to say, it's a lot simpler to just log you out.
    Like stated, WoW for example has cross-realm functionality
    Yes? We have cross-world and world visit and it is fully functional. Exact same thing.

    The discussion is about cross-data center, which can mean moving your data over to Oceania (aka the other side of the world). WoW does not even support that (according to a quick google search).
    it even auto phases you into other realms if you join to a realm of another person.
    A lot of people don't like that and think it destroyed server communities, and were glad it was not a thing in FFXIV. So, there are downsides to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrnauskis View Post
    "its fine for me" DogSittingInTheMiddleOfFlames.jpg

    This is why we don't have hats for vieras/hroth and why the game is in decline.
    People accept below average until they dont
    yet again a we dont have hats crybaby, i really hope square deceides in the future to blow off the whole hats for viera/hrothgar thing and say "they will never add hats for it accept it or race change" would be great really great

    and yea its fine for me because square stated clearly they wont add it and i accept it, because its such a small feature i really dont care about it at all
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    This thread is wonderful proof of why this game is stuck as if we were still 10+ years ago.

    Yall accept absolute mediocrity and the stupidest excuses.

    Also lol @ cross world and world visit and dc travel comparison to WoW's, in WoW you cross over in a second, in FFXIV you have to be lucky that the server is not "congested" (hi aether and balmung)

    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    yet again a we dont have hats crybaby, i really hope square deceides in the future to blow off the whole hats for viera/hrothgar thing and say "they will never add hats for it accept it or race change" would be great really great

    and yea its fine for me because square stated clearly they wont add it and i accept it, because its such a small feature i really dont care about it at all
    Good on you for accepting mediocrity, SE isnt going to give you good boy points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Yes it is. It's copying your data and they need to prevent you from modifying your data while it is being copied. That means rendering you unable to move or do anything, and transfering the session over to the new data center and world. Needless to say, it's a lot simpler to just log you out.
    It takes me less time to hop worlds in OSRS than in FFXIV. think about that for a moment. Even ACROSS THE WORLD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Yes? We have cross-world and world visit and it is fully functional. Exact same thing.
    ? It's absolutely not. It is seamless in WoW and realms are connected, if I join another persons party from another realm it seamlessly phases me into that realm without any loading time or nothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The discussion is about cross-data center, which can mean moving your data over to Oceania (aka the other side of the world). WoW does not even support that (according to a quick google search).
    Moving from Chaos to Light or vice versa is not the other side of the world. Same applies to DC inside North America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    A lot of people don't like that and think it destroyed server communities, and were glad it was not a thing in FFXIV. So, there are downsides to it.
    FFXIV doesn't have server communities outside of ERP venues, not like WoW did. FFXIV already has cross-server duty finder which fragments the communities and then there is the fact that if u want to do any content you have to go to Light (in EU).
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    Glamourdresser is something they stated in the past that they will not add it and its fine for me
    If I remember correctly, it's not that they said they wouldn't, it's that they couldn't.
    When they tried to implement them, it hard crashed their test servers. The issue seemed to stem from multiple people using the same dresser or the dresser being moved while being in use. (•゚д゚•)
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrnauskis View Post
    It's absolutely not. It is seamless in WoW and realms are connected
    It's the same thing because:
    Realms = servers
    Worlds = servers

    Worlds are also connected in that they share same duty servers and allow cross-world linkshells, FC chat across worlds, etc.

    Whereas:
    Data Centers = potentially regional (across the world from eachother)
    if I join another persons party from another realm it seamlessly phases me into that realm without any loading time or nothing
    Yes, that is because it is crossing WoW's version of worlds. Not data centers.

    FFXIV can also do it that fast. The only slow part is teleporting to the aetheryte. Once you click to visit another world, it's usually instant. If you queue into a duty, you are also sort of "world visiting" and that's pretty instant too.

    There is a bit of a loading screen, for a moment, and that's really going to be their order of load operations and how soon they choose to let you move around. They did reduce that a bit by making it not have to load players first.
    Moving from Chaos to Light or vice versa is not the other side of the world. Same applies to DC inside North America.
    While true, Data Centers are treated as separate as if they are in different regions, in terms of how they are setup. Obviously, it would help if that distinction was dropped so they could at least partially merge certain operations of them that don't involve network traffic, but right now they may as well be in a different region with how they're setup.
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