Can we bring back freedom of speech?

[Moqi]

I'm on PS5 without a keyboard, I have no time for politness because it takes a long time to type. The most commmon response to my single "Stance" comment is still "thank you". And if they don't I just leave, I don't waste time arguing with bad tanks.

[Voryn]

me in particular got in jail not really with consequence for explaining a tank swap in an ex trial which people somehow got offended by

It sounds like this is a case of the GM doing their due diligence to look into things, seeing what happened, and confirming that you weren’t wrong because they didn’t penalize you for explaining mechanics. I wonder about what the GMs do about unnecessary reports, but I’m not that familiar with the rules for that and can’t find them.

While I personally don’t agree that it’s right for your case to lead to being afraid of explaining anything, I do get where you’re coming from with regards to what the examples are like. They’re overly polite to the point of sounding unnatural, and I don’t expect people to be polite to that degree. If I say in a dungeon, “turn on your tank stance so the rest of us don’t die” (which I actually have said a couple times, lol), if the tank somehow gets upset then the rules say they’re correct to report me, even though I expect the GMs to not penalize me.

[Zelgadiss007]

I haven’t actively spoken in FFXIV since the Stormblood expansion because both the community and the terms of service have changed so drastically.

I think its more so that the community has changed, and how the ToS is enforced.
Peeps would rather report someone for hurting their fee-fees than just blacklisting them.

[Gokki]

OP, i think you're the problem (and anyone who relates / agrees). I've engaged in profanity, politics and even offended a few people - never got banned for it. Wanna know why? Because contextually it was appropriate and the outcome was reasonable.


Profanity: saying a slur when i die in a boss fight, or cussing someone when they do or say something stupid, or just roleplaying (that doesn't count i suppose). The game also features a profanity filter so it's stupid to get banned for a filtered term so long as you're not trying circumvent it. Actively spamming insults for no reason gets you banned because you're disrupting the game by abusing game functions - this is what gets you.


Politics - i talked politics just fine, including trump, election results, taiwan, t. square and other things. The reason it's fine is the same - normal discussion is OK, it's when you specifically troll or incite toxicity that may get your account actioned against.


Discussions about gender is not political, it's an intimate personal topic that discussed among close friends or lovers. It's, again, when you make a big deal in public about it that you start disrupting other people with unwanted and unrelated intimate topics that gets your account actioned. Sensitive or intimate topics include: religion, sex, sexuality, gender (those 3 are different btw), taste in food*, gameplay performance in context**, political affiliation or opinions ---> ALL of these can be discussed in game just fine, you simply need to have some common sense and engage those topics in the appropriate context, typically with one or two people that you know are open to discussing it with you.

As for offending others or getting offended myself - that happened a few times. The result was a swift Blacklisting and we never engaged again. it's when someone tries to circumvent these game functions that gets you into trouble.

* It is wise to not argue about taste because, like gender or sexuality, everyone has their own.
** Do NOT criticize a sprout in Sastasha for doing "bad dps" for any reason. It's absolutely OK to do that at max lvl in Savage clears. Still can't reference out-of-game info like parsed damage numbers.

PS: i reserve the right to be wrong, so i'm happy to listen if you have constructive corrections