8.0 NEW JOB DESIGN WILL SAVE FF14!

[Lorika]

As i recall, they talked about Job Identity not JoB Change... And, also expect some old Jobs getting the DRG/BLM/MNK treatment.
Meaning : New animations, new VFX, new SFX and some long overdue QoL...

[CapaxInfiniti]

This is what happens when for years the playerbase is like Xeno and worships the ground Yoshi walks on and defends every bad decision the dev team makes.
Defend slop and one day you'll look around and there's nothing but slop.

[Emitans]

This is what happens when for years the playerbase is like Xeno and worships the ground Yoshi walks on and defends every bad decision the dev team makes.
Defend slop and one day you'll look around and there's nothing but slop.

When I finished Dawntrail at launch my main opinion was "this is the kind of game any developer would make if you told them everything they've ever made is literally perfect".

[Hallarem]

This is what happens when for years the playerbase is like Xeno and worships the ground Yoshi walks on and defends every bad decision the dev team makes.
Defend slop and one day you'll look around and there's nothing but slop.

I'll trust his opinion on raids, because he does it actively as much as I despise the pve systems of 14 being a DDR dance. If the community enjoys it and it has always been a thing. Why would they change it.

[Hallarem]

On the other hand pvp having more job identity tells you a clear enough tale. Slippidy slop pve job design. They are too lazy to innovate cause it would take time away from ff9 remake and tactics

[bic12]

I'll trust his opinion on raids, because he does it actively as much as I despise the pve systems of 14 being a DDR dance. If the community enjoys it and it has always been a thing. Why would they change it.

The fact he does it actively to this day is a RED FLAG.

If someone still goes to the same restaurant even as they start making overcooked burnt steak served with ketchup you should not trust his opinion on anything lmao.

Most people with standards have long since quit.

[Mercury_Grey]

The fact he does it actively to this day is a RED FLAG.

If someone still goes to the same restaurant even as they start making overcooked burnt steak served with ketchup you should not trust his opinion on anything lmao.

Most people with standards have long since quit.

From your argument it seems like your standards of a debate have dropped worse then a terrible burn. Might wnat to spend less time o nreddit and more time enjoying what you do buddy

[NaoSen]

8.0 really will be a make-or-break part for this game (I'm sure this was said about Dawntrail too but we're at a all time low now)
For the average non-raider 7.3 is basically the end of the game, novelty of cosmic exploration and occult crescent has worn off already, deep dungeons are niche, we already know SE's strength is in raids so a raid or ultimate being good is expected at this point.
Player numbers dropping

8.0 should be coming early 2027 if you go by past release timelines between patches / it doesnt get delayed, its only mid 2025 now and there's nothing DT currently has or can have to keep most entertained for another year and a half so it's going to need to pull back a LOT of unsubscribed people and if its another Dawntrail experience that will change to leaving the game sooner and never coming back.

[Hallarem]

When I finished Dawntrail at launch my main opinion was "this is the kind of game any developer would make if you told them everything they've ever made is literally perfect".

It did seem like a very unearned victorylap. Down to their boomer voice-modulated house band playing the main theme

[hunter2]

The community is way overhyping the idea of 8.0 job re-designs. I want it as much as anyone (it would make me re-sub) but it was basically an off-hand comment "stop asking me about this, we're doing fight design first". And you can see how mild the fight design changes were - a couple more quick random AOEs to dodge, and fewer debuff vomit bodycheck mechanics in savage. Good changes but nothing revolutionary.