Thread: Is 7.2 the last patch to even save Dawntrail at this point?(SPOILERS AHOY)

7.0 was a disaster. 7.1 was a continuation of that. Will 7.2 be any different? Because right now 7.16(A SMALL PATCH!) has been a complete disaster. Untranslated lines. Story writing being thrown down the drain as if it's written by ChatGPT. How hard is it to ask for a good story? I didn't mind comedic villains being the thing, but I'm not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel - instead I'm seeing a dead end. I might not want to jump ship yet, but I honestly think they only have one chance.

7.2 has to be a FIX to everything that has gone wrong since 7.0 started, since let's be real: people smack Stormblood around because of its pacing, and 7.0 isn't any better - it's worse. However, Stormblood picked up quite a good deal in its Post-Patch quests. This lead to an interesting story for Yotsuyu and everyone's favorite Samurai Gosetsu; yet, there are things that I feel are mainly set-up currently from 7.1's story, and if I hit it beat for beat in 7.2 I'm going to kick myself since this is going into speculation territory.

We have 2 Sphenes. 1 Sphene is akin to DeathGPT, the other is...we don't know! We assume alive, but they may very well be the other part of the personality that Sphene had - the good one. This leads to a lot of questions as to what they're trying to write about, as originally Living Memory was about 'letting go' so to speak with how we shut down all these attractions. It was a literal theme park we turned into a dull world! We got some exposition about Gulool Ja's origins, as well as Koana's - but that's mainly backstory that we should've gotten in 7.0, if I'll be frank.

NEO Regulators make me question whether we're actually going to see Living Memory become active again - as well as have yet another threat to deal with to the Source since last time we pulled the plug, we took our damn time while DeathGPT was processing the end of all living things. This time, they need to write Bad Sphene in a way that can actually make a differential between the two meaningful - because what's the point if we get the same 'Nice Sphene' act we got when we first arrived in Alexandria, and the 'Mean Sphene' act we got after we uncovered Otis? There has to be a motive behind this split to actually make sense, otherwise they're repeating some of the issues they had in post-patch Endwalker after 6.2(and don't get me started on Ysh'tola...)

Either way, the raid content is probably going to distract us for at least a few months before we get 7.25, Shade's Triangle - which, they need to not botch if things are not well-received on the writing end for the next raid tier(which has been excellent this first tier mind). They have to set their story straight irregardless since 7.2 will more than likely give us a new trial to deal with in MSQ(if not, then I will be sorely disappointed unless it's a return to Side Quest).

There's only so long we can do the same song and dance, so the dev team needs to INNOVATE.

Originally Posted by Ath192

GGWP cuz thats not gonna happen.

Thanks for taking out of context - definitely could do with more I don't know; constructive discussion?

Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

Thanks for taking out of context - definitely could do with more I don't know; constructive discussion?

There isn't much to discuss. The damage has been done, faith in CS3 is gone, and Yoshida's still acting as if everything's fine while the majority of the money made by XIV goes to flop after flop. Fixing things would require them to acknowledge that there is a problem.

Originally Posted by Daralii

There isn't much to discuss. The damage has been done, faith in CS3 is gone, and Yoshida's still acting as if everything's fine while the majority of the money made by XIV goes to flop after flop. Fixing things would require them to acknowledge that there is a problem.

Yoshida probably is following corporate interests, I won't lie - especially since their CEOs had an NFT obsession which the Gaming Market denied harshly. However, I've sat for a lot of the 'wait and see' crowd. I'm more speculating how much further they can screw this up because I'm almost certain that it can go into the ground if they're going to pull another Post-Patch EW on us.

Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

Yoshida probably is following corporate interests, I won't lie - especially since their CEOs had an NFT obsession which the Gaming Market denied harshly. However, I've sat for a lot of the 'wait and see' crowd. I'm more speculating how much further they can screw this up because I'm almost certain that it can go into the ground if they're going to pull another Post-Patch EW on us.

Following corporate interests is his job. That's the very nature of it. Corporate interests is to make a lot of money. Find that balance between high quality content and ways to keep the player subscribed. Sometimes corporate interests and player satisfaction line up. If it were to lower profits to give us a better experience, they'll go with higher profits every time. He's a businessman first.

Originally Posted by Ath192

I thought the context was that 7.0 sucked and you wanted 7.2 to be a fix to everything that went wrong. In which case I told you it isn't happening. Let me know if I got the context wrong though.

Now if you're upset because I told you something you didn't want to hear, then that's different. But Instead of getting offended at me and telling me I'm the one that doesn't understand you should say something more accurate.

7.2 being a fix for the story. I could give f all about the other stuff since we all know that's set in stone because of the Battle Team's blundering. The only thing I was a little annoyed at was how some people on the forum tend to s***post like it's Reddit, but most threads I want to at least start with some constructive discussion because majority of the time people are going to stare at the first page looking at those responses.

oh my god, what if they attempt to retcon the whole "erase all the memories in Living Memory" because most players had some serious issues with the writing in that zone, and instead of dealing with the consequences of that happening and/or trying to move on to something else so we can just forget this whole Dawntrail thing ever happened like a bad dream, they instead go, "Look, it's okay, we found a way to restore Sphene all the memories! Hooray! Everyone is happy!"

It sounds outlandish, but everything about late Endwalker and Dawntrail compared to what came before has been pretty outlandish in how stupid things have gotten, so...