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  1. #41
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    Aneshda's Avatar
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    Deidrea Shadowbane
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    Twintania
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    I pay 155,88 Subscription per Year + 109,20 Retainers per Year + 49,99 Dawntrail = 315,07 Euro for 1 Year but each Expansion is always 2+ Years so it would costs me 265,08 for the second year of this Expansion. Overall it will be 580,15 Euro till the next Expansion. + 1-5 Months extra. SE needs to find a way to make a Bank or whatever, the cost for Retainers is to high. And while they at it, they should remove the FC Workshop from Houses and place it by the Grand Companies. FC's should not start Airships / Submarines by 0 again if they loose their House and none can loose a Grand Companie Workshop. This will clear many House Spots. Players have so many ideas but we get ignored.
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    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

  2. #42
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    dspguy's Avatar
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 100
    I personally have no issue with the patch cycles. I hit the content when it comes out. Then do some weekly stuff that I feel is necessary. Then I play another game. Sometimes I unsub between (for less than 45 days). Honestly, I find it mentally healthy to do something else besides this game. And while I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but we can't have the expectation that there will be no content every time we login to this game. Unless you want random content procedurally generated. I hear the quality of that is high.
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  3. #43
    Player Mortex's Avatar
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Didn’t they increase the patch cycle by half a month because of Covid ? Then why in the hell is it still stuck in Covid times when that one is more or less over . Also the content for a non raider is completely and utterly way too little. Imagine getting like 3 hours story and around 1-2 hours hildi and 1-2 hours for the role quest line plus a beast tribe were 3 daily’s take you around 10 minutes per day for only just 4,5 months…… so in short 65 bucks for around maybe 10 hours around ???? Plus the story for both the main plot and the role quests ending is just snot, like holy moly
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  4. #44
    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Benedikta Harman
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    Moogle
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I sub when there is high end pve stuff (savages or ultimates, dont really care that much about extremes-criterions or the new chaotic raid)

    since DT release i've been unsubbed for 4 months (been back since 2 weeks for FRU prog with my static), I will most likely take a 1 month break before M8s and then probably another 1-2 month break before 7.3, usually taking a 1 year break before every expansion (X).4 -> (X+1).0

    It really amaze me how casuals (high end pve stuff is the more "time demanding" content) can stay sub for so long, if I would be a casual I will sub 1 month/expansion (3 weeks before an expansion to do all of the (X).1 -> (X).5 content and then do the (X+1).0 MSQ for the remaining week) otherwise the value provided by FF14 is way under the value provided for the same price by other solo/online games

    -> take for example 7.1, for a casual there is MSQ (3h), 1 dungeon (20mn), 24 man raid (1h) + some other stuff, so 5hours of "fresh content", let's say 15hours with the weekly stuff until it gets boring

    15h for 10€ x 4 + 40€/5 (expansion price divided by 5 patches) = 48€
    48€ is Silent Hill 2 Remake / FF7 Rebirth / MH Wilds / 4 month gamepass
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    Last edited by CaedemSanguis; 01-22-2025 at 02:30 PM.

  5. #45
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    Sunhwapark's Avatar
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    Dear Boy
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    Didn’t they increase the patch cycle by half a month because of Covid ?
    I thought it's because they wanted a break ? Or something along the lines of "having an extra week will give us an extra bit of time to catch stray problems so that each patch has good quality checks on it".

    In any case, less content over a longer period of time doesn't feel particularly great to me.
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  6. #46
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    It's a valid argument and it does need to be factored in. Even with content that is intended to last, people will burn through it. You would see people linking the latest relic step in Idyllshire first day back in Heavensward if it was something that wasn't limited (like a resource tied to a daily roulette) because they no-lifed so they could be first. There were people I saw who had everything you could possibly get from Chaotic the first week and they were happy because they were done and could stop burning through it to get what they wanted.
    Nobody is talking about those people though. I specifically cited how even at a slow pace, content simply doesn't last. Sure, some people will have grinded out Chaotic within a day or two. Just like a couple got max rank in Island Sanctuary in three days. They're the extreme just like the hypercasual who can only play for an hour a week max. What about everyone else? If you have 4-5 hours a week, you already exceed the longevity of every non-raiding piece of content 7.1 offers. And this patch is supposed to last until March or April.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    It won't. Because this "10 minutes here" and "20 minutes there" builds up to where you've then spent a few hours. And guess how long an average person has after work? Some of those people also have to juggle looking after children, maintaining their house and preparing food.

    Naturally, the people who can spend all day for weeks will burn through it faster.
    I'll speak anecdotally to this. A friend of mine has a two year old and works 8-10 a day yet can still dedicate hours to XIV if she wanted to. In fact, she completed everything 7.1 offered over a weekend because she no longer raids and that's literally all it takes if we're generous. Most people have more than a "couple minutes here and there" for their hobbies. Those who don't, aren't playing XIV to begin with.

    Stop making excuses for a multi-million dollar company who hasn't once managed to even meet their own four month deadline in three years.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  7. #47
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    That was it. Where on earth are you spending multiple hours per day?
    • 5min weekly Custom Deliveries for the mount.
    • 16min daily Expert roulette.
    • 20min daily Frontline for the PvP Series rewards.
    • There were more FATE rewards, Orchestrions and TT cards to farm.
    • Hunts can also be farmed for the new rewards.
    • Many people went to farm the new maps for the new rewards such as figmental coffers.
    • New extreme trial to farm for the mount. 8.3 hours, roughly, excluding wipes and prog, and most people won't do that all at once.
    • Some people will still do M4 and savage reclears.
    • Any other unfinished content.
    And of course there are other sub-patches that follow the .1 patch, such as .11 with the Ultimate and .15 with the Chaotic raid.
    I don't understand why we need to have less content because someone else, who may or may not exist, may or may not have children, and may or may not have to look after them.
    If they have too much content, they could feel overwhelmed and stressed, a feeling other MMORPGs have created in the past.
    None of this content is even mandatory
    That's another part of what made it off-putting in the older style of designing an MMORPG. Grind for hours and hours and hours and it be actually required. There are games notorious for this still, and many people avoid them due to it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hallarem View Post
    Where are these imaginary people?
    The ones not on these forums, casually enjoying the game as they always have.
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  8. #48
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    sindriiisgaming's Avatar
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    Sugar And'spice
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    Twintania
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    Reaper Lv 100
    for me, the 4.5 months IS a problem. and i want them sooner, because the PPl provide a useful gauge on how things are going and developer > player interaction. if those pll were any longer appart i would feel like the devs were alien creatures and id loose touch with them. I want 3.5 months again because at least back then yoshiP was very involved in XIV and its community
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

  9. #49
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    at least back then yoshiP was very involved in XIV and its community
    Speaking of which, in 2 days, Yoshi-P will be visiting a server to hang out with players.
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  10. #50
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    Sugar And'spice
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    Twintania
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Speaking of which, in 2 days, Yoshi-P will be visiting a server to hang out with players.
    cant wait to hear about his Fav flavour of sandwiches...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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