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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    This argument really needs to die.

    Even taken at a slow pace, most content in this game simply lacks any sort of longevity. Artificially stretching out it out doesn't change that fact. Take the 7.1 MSQ. It's roughly two hours, give or take. I still haven't finished it because I simply don't care after how underwhelming DT was. That doesn't make the MSQ suddenly a month's worth of content. I simply chose not to engage with it beyond unlocking the dungeon for a month.
    It's a valid argument and it does need to be factored in. Even with content that is intended to last, people will burn through it. You would see people linking the latest relic step in Idyllshire first day back in Heavensward if it was something that wasn't limited (like a resource tied to a daily roulette) because they no-lifed so they could be first. There were people I saw who had everything you could possibly get from Chaotic the first week and they were happy because they were done and could stop burning through it to get what they wanted.
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    fffff
    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    Lately, I've seen a lot of people claiming that the 4.5 month between patches is was the reason it feels so barren and we should go back to shorter patches. I've seen that argument repeated so much, but truthfully, this argument is sooo bad. This a perfect exemple of the community being very bad with analysing the problems.

    4.5 month scheldule is not a problem. At worst, it's an aggravating factor to the real problem, the lack of content with shelf life. Give us content supposed to last for 4.5 month in your 4.5 month patch, and there won't be any problems.

    Heck they could go to 3 month patches, if the patches content is the same as the 7.1 content, we'd still have the exact same problems. I mean, 7.1 was released 2 month ago, and look how happy we are. We'd feel so much better if this was 3.5 month scheldule.

    No wonder SE does bad choice with the entire community seem to singlemindedly focus on a non problem instead of the actual problem.

    180 usd (without retainers) yearly for 2-3 updates worth of 3 week of repetitive, lack of any kind of innovation content and 0 new zones,maps,modes etc?

    Even 100% free to play Chinese gatchas gives you 10 times of high-quality content in half of a year than 2 full years of FFXIV.
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    fffff


    180 usd (without retainers) yearly for 2-3 updates worth of 3 week of repetitive, lack of any kind of innovation content and 0 new zones,maps,modes etc?

    Even 100% free to play Chinese gatchas gives you 10 times of high-quality content in half of a year than 2 full years of FFXIV.
    To quote a friend of mine. "I get more content updates from Honkai and Genshin than I do XIV. And they're both free."
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    fffff


    180 usd (without retainers) yearly for 2-3 updates worth of 3 week of repetitive, lack of any kind of innovation content and 0 new zones,maps,modes etc?

    Even 100% free to play Chinese gatchas gives you 10 times of high-quality content in half of a year than 2 full years of FFXIV.
    it shouldn't be. it should only be 155. i don't know why yours is 180
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    it shouldn't be. it should only be 155. i don't know why yours is 180
    nice hill to die on buddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    No wonder SE does bad choice with the entire community seem to singlemindedly focus on a non problem instead of the actual problems.
    As if SE did anything to adress the "wrong" complaints from people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    It's a valid argument and it does need to be factored in. Even with content that is intended to last, people will burn through it. You would see people linking the latest relic step in Idyllshire first day back in Heavensward if it was something that wasn't limited (like a resource tied to a daily roulette) because they no-lifed so they could be first. There were people I saw who had everything you could possibly get from Chaotic the first week and they were happy because they were done and could stop burning through it to get what they wanted.
    What peeves me is not the nuance of it partially being players fault for no lifing. Its that the blame gets lifted off completely from the poor "devs" who lack the resources to innovate when other MMO's and free to play games could. And having the gal to charge a monthly payment for it.

    - hard challenges to get different weapon glams for jobs, beating hard solobosses for them.

    - achievements that reward Spell Glams that change the look of your spells.

    - gathering job = archeology like in WoW that would reward mounts, pets, glams, stories, legends. Add RNG TO THE GAME
    Incentivizing people to read lore. Make it apart of the unending journal or whatever its called for hints and navigation. Deep sea diving arceology.

    Airship housing, submarine housing, airship FC fights with partyfinder filler options to include everyone alà blue mage challenges. Forcing you to man cannons, throw bombs overboard and avoid falling.

    Those are just four off the top of my head. But nah fam. Fates and hunts. Where is the innovation
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    I have no issues with such a long patch cyclus tbh, but like other people already said it cant be the case that you got 2-3h of content every 4-5 months, even if you raid you do the savage tier week 1 oder 2, then you do your reclears 1h each week and thats it, i said it so many times already to friends i have in a freaking daily based mobile game more to do on a daily base then in ffxiv which is a full grown ass MMORPG
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    The problem, as others have stated, isn't the longer patch cycle. It's getting a longer patch cycle while also getting a worse product out of the deal. You would expect more time to work would result in a better result, but that does not seem to be the case.

    For example, we are starting to see quests where they just straight forgot to translate the text;

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    Rithris Amaya
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    I mean yes the main issue is the content itself. But I think the point is that we're waiting even longer for less interesting and content with less replay value.

    Both issues actually stack, because now your not only waiting more time for a patch but your also feeling like you get less out of a patch depending on what kind of content you like.
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