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  1. #291
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    Ajisaii's Avatar
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    Ajisai Phylla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naphtalia View Post
    Why do it yourself and dedicate the time when you can open your wallet and have someone else do it for you in a day?
    Because you gain nothing from these fights apart from the satisfaction of clearing the fight and ugly weapons that you only tolerate because of what it took to get the weapon in the first place. It's sad if you want people to perceive you as someone with "prestige" or as someone good at the game by swiping your credit card on some dodgy website just because you're terrible at the game.
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  2. #292
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    I don't know what we would do without Aravell
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  3. #293
    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Benedikta Harman
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    My point isn't "sites are forbidden", my point is how you use the site, but ok.
    Oh so for P8s week1, you cannot refuse a dps doing less damage than a tank in your pf

    Okay make sense
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  4. #294
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    Oh so for P8s week1, you cannot refuse a dps doing less damage than a tank in your pf

    Okay make sense
    Wielding data you shouldn't have access to in game against other players for your own convenience is the very definition of misuse of data. I don't know how much clearer I can make it.

    You can twist and turn it all you like, in the end, you are still wielding data you shouldn't have access to in game against other players.

    Perhaps you don't care about other people and only care about your convenience, that's up to you, still a misuse of data though.
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  5. #295
    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Wielding data you shouldn't have access to in game against other players for your own convenience is the very definition of misuse of data. I don't know how much clearer I can make it.

    You can twist and turn it all you like, in the end, you are still wielding data you shouldn't have access to in game against other players.

    Perhaps you don't care about other people and only care about your convenience, that's up to you, still a misuse of data though.
    do you think it make senses that you have very tight dps check without any acces to a player dps ?

    if fflog didn't exist, and If I were raiding in pf, I will simply ask those joining my pf to do the P8s dummy in front of me

    it's not about fflogs, or act, or savage dummy, it's about -> if you have tight dps check, people will want you to know how to dps, no matter what, it totally make sense and it will happen 100% of the time, will it be through dummy/through stream/through "show me your achievments on lodestone" or else
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  6. #296
    Player AvoSturmfaust's Avatar
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    Maweth Ashari
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    Like i said it earlier there is a Reason Square and Yoshi didnt do anything against FFLogs and ACT yet, he stated it more then once if we not harass people its a grey zone to use, but checking if someone is able to meet certain dps checks etc is not harassing people, expecting people to play at the same level as you do if you open a PF is not harassing people, checking if they play the mechs clean is not harassing people, just understand it finally FFLogs and ACT will always be part of the endgame content scene if you dont like it, look for another game but let me tell you something final even with FFLogs and ACT is way way more human then other games are.

    so keep trying to get rid of FFLogs but it will not happen, it will never NEVER disappear.
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  7. #297
    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    Like i said it earlier there is a Reason Square and Yoshi didnt do anything against FFLogs and ACT yet, he stated it more then once if we not harass people its a grey zone to use, but checking if someone is able to meet certain dps checks etc is not harassing people, expecting people to play at the same level as you do if you open a PF is not harassing people, checking if they play the mechs clean is not harassing people, just understand it finally FFLogs and ACT will always be part of the endgame content scene if you dont like it, look for another game but let me tell you something final even with FFLogs and ACT is way way more human then other games are.

    so keep trying to get rid of FFLogs but it will not happen, it will never NEVER disappear.
    I even think if fflogs/act disappear it will be much worse since the "skill/dps check" will be more upfront rather than "hidden" by checking a site
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  8. #298
    Player AvoSturmfaust's Avatar
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    Maweth Ashari
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    I even think if fflogs/act disappear it will be much worse since the "skill/dps check" will be more upfront rather than "hidden" by checking a site
    yes thats the next point, people need to understand if FFLogs/ACT is gone, the Community will end up more toxic since you cant see the Experience or anything from someone, people will start to even accept less fails then they do right now, so it ends up way more toxic
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  9. #299
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    Cheez Whiz
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    I even think if fflogs/act disappear it will be much worse since the "skill/dps check" will be more upfront rather than "hidden" by checking a site
    "Skip soar or disband".
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  10. #300
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    Memento Mori
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    Twintania
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Wielding data you shouldn't have access to in game against other players for your own convenience is the very definition of misuse of data. I don't know how much clearer I can make it.

    You can twist and turn it all you like, in the end, you are still wielding data you shouldn't have access to in game against other players.

    Perhaps you don't care about other people and only care about your convenience, that's up to you, still a misuse of data though.
    I don’t care how I obtain the data if the people joining my PF and ruining the experience for the other seven members clearly don’t respect our time.
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