Thread: Please implement some baseline MMO features in 8.0

Mostly concerning the UI and UI customization. The total lack of any inbuilt on-screen proc trackers is baffling, that's why I always get tired of playing Dancer and Bard.

I like how there is a huge pop-up when your retainers sell something but not for actual combat purposes.

Best you can do is to macgyver a hotbar in the middle of your screen and put the proc skills as macro /micon version there, but you still have the problem that your camera gets stuck if you click on them accidentally, because there is no ''clickthrough'' option for hotbars, another feature that WoW had like 20 years ago.

I like that you don't have to spend hours for UI Customization. WoWs Interface is a shitfest and raids are designed with addons in mind that trivialize everything to some extend.

Originally Posted by Kandraxx

Mostly concerning the UI and UI customization. The total lack of any inbuilt on-screen proc trackers is baffling, that's why I always get tired of playing Dancer and Bard.

I like how there is a huge pop-up when your retainers sell something but not for actual combat purposes.

Best you can do is to macgyver a hotbar in the middle of your screen and put the proc skills as macro /micon version there, but you still have the problem that your camera gets stuck if you click on them accidentally, because there is no ''clickthrough'' option for hotbars, another feature that WoW had like 20 years ago.

I think this game stopped caring what other MMO's do to innovate after they did 2.0. When everyone else offered cola, pepsi, fanta and sprite. 14 switched to tap water after a small stint of a cola-knock off and was like "Please enjoy tap water, it never betrays you and is always the same flavor"

At this phase, after seeing Endwalker and Dawntrail, I don't think they are going to do changes until their sub numbers drop massively. And even then I wouldn't be too confident on it not being just another emergency band-aid "sorry" until they reverted back to their old ways. This game needs new direction, if its not the directions fault and its company meddling and budgetary reasons? We are ROYALLY SCREWED.

The devs are afraid of change, but what's more worrying is that the community is clinging to not changing either and still sticks to defense and absolutely marring this game into that tapwater state. I bet above me or below me there's going to be a "I like it the way it is" comment by the time I've finished this comment.

Can't you just look at your hotbar?

Originally Posted by CidHeiral

Can't you just look at your hotbar?

As someone who played a lot of Dancer, I feel like that's becoming more and more of an issue (and thus tending to favor jobs with completely static rotations while severely impacting ones that are proc heavy).

It was rad when mechanic tells were more in your face and straightforward. Now that the norm has increasingly become needing to keep an eye on boss gestures or on battlefield features (and the traditional telegraph almost always being too late except maybe during a "showing you" phase at the start of a fight), though, the need to keep a constant eye on your hotbar for procs has become a millstone.

I remember when I did the trial for 6.5 MSQ and on our first pull (where we wiped), we were doing just fine until late in the fight suddenly 5 people insta-deleted. Somehow I survived, along with the tanks (unfortunately, it wasn't quite enough to finish it). But with how much I had on my own plate (DNC procs/dance moves order + dodging what I needed to dodge), I still to this day have no idea what the heck everyone else failed to dodge ... (And then add with my work hours I'd have had to be a raid lead had I went ahead with recruiting a static ... aaaaaaa.)

Basically we're already getting to the point of fights that feel like trying to do WoW fights without the aid of DBM, while even this level of QOL lags as well.

Heck, in general it feels like SE have gone from making "the game to go to because it ticked certain boxes you liked about WoW while doing stuff better" to the polar opposite situation (in which WoW ticks boxes that you liked about FFXIV while doing stuff better) ...

I'm all for a more friendly in-built UI customization to make tracking stuffs better (DoT multiple targets would like to have a word with you, too). Although the one that pops sentence on the middle of my screen like retainer business and most of DT content/rehaul messages are IMHO too intrusive & distracting, I actually wished we can delete that or at least MOVE it.

Originally Posted by Vintersol

I like that you don't have to spend hours for UI Customization. WoWs Interface is a shitfest and raids are designed with addons in mind that trivialize everything to some extend.

Good for you. Some people would like the option to have more customisation though.

Honestly DNC has too many procs and it is annoying to be glued to the hotbar to not overcap and everything else than actually enjoying the game you're playing.