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    I think it's fine if social media apps like discord are used as a supplement to the socialisation in the game. But these days it is far more common that if you want to do certain content you are 100% forced to join one of these servers, otherwise you just can not do the content. This is an internet wide problem and not just ffxiv. Really wish internet culture would shift away from over relying on discord for everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal View Post
    No, the game does not facilitate natural socialization and the forming of friendships inside the game itself like classic MMOs did. As for the FF14 discords, I do not think it is good for each sector of the game to be monopolized by cliques, or for information to be locked away in corners of the internet that are not indexed and are aggravating to search through. Want to do Baldesion Arsenal? Got to join that group's BA server, because good luck forming a BA run ingame. Want to prog a criterion dungeon or an ultimate raid? Gotta join a discord. PvP? Discord. Want to find out what your class' endgame rotation and stat priority is? Discord. The list goes on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buttobi View Post
    I think it's fine if social media apps like discord are used as a supplement to the socialisation in the game. But these days it is far more common that if you want to do certain content you are 100% forced to join one of these servers, otherwise you just can not do the content. This is an internet wide problem and not just ffxiv. Really wish internet culture would shift away from over relying on discord for everything.
    Discord really is part of a cancer that is destroying internet knowledge bases. It's non-indexed, non-persistent and linear in nature. It's a chat, not a forum or a wiki. And yet people are happy to gate their information behind this weird chat service instead of making it actually publicly available because its so easy to make a Discord server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    Discord really is part of a cancer that is destroying internet knowledge bases. It's non-indexed, non-persistent and linear in nature. It's a chat, not a forum or a wiki. And yet people are happy to gate their information behind this weird chat service instead of making it actually publicly available because its so easy to make a Discord server.
    Yep, it is completely replacing wikis and forums even though it is a completely terrible platform for that type of thing. And as we can see from ffxiv, it is also making it harder to jump into specific types of content because the community has collectively decided that this should be the primary way of organising things. I can't say I am not guilty of this either, I have organised Rival Wings queue syncs for years through the use of discord, but I think this just highlights how hard it can be to organise things through in game means.
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