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    Mr. Yoshida, About the Glamours

    Can you please revisit making all the glamours wearable on all jobs?

    With space age suits and outlandish outfits all over the place there doesn't seem to be a good reason to segment the glamour system anymore.

    There are a lot of new outfits I would like to use on my character that I simply can't because they belong to other jobs I will simply not have any interest in using.

    I know it may be hard to let go of these restrictions but maybe it is time to be less rigid and be open to making some changes in the game.

    Please consider and thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Can you please revisit making all the glamours wearable on all jobs?

    With space age suits and outlandish outfits all over the place there doesn't seem to be a good reason to segment the glamour system anymore.

    There are a lot of new outfits I would like to use on my character that I simply can't because they belong to other job's I will simply not have any interest in using.

    I know it may be hard to let go of these restrictions but maybe it is time to be less rigid and be open to making some changes in the game.

    Please consider and thank you.
    Agreed.

    Their 'logical' justification of "But class/job fantasy identity" died in Stormblood, arguably sooner.
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again - the excuse pertaining to job/class identity is just that - an excuse. Because when you queue a roulette and find yourself in a team that looks like this:

    It really does make an absolutely mockery of said excuse.
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    Yes please! There’s enough mega threads about this that should show how badly desired it is!

    I will bring up, again, that gear has already been unlocked in the past to go from their previous roles to “All Classes.” Doesn’t look like that’s been done since around level 60 gear sets, so we’re long overdue. It would be the perfect time to unlock everything, say pre-90 if not pre-100, while they’re going through and adding the second dye channels to everything.

    At this point, I’d even settle for a Disciples of War/Disciples of Magic split, which has also been done in the past. But ultimately I would like to see all gear completely unlocked. There’s so many nice crafter/gatherer sets that get so little use due to the restrictions. Keep current expansion gear locked to keep people grinding for it, but imo when each expansion comes out, all prior gear should be unlocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    Yes please! There’s enough mega threads about this that should show how badly desired it is!

    I will bring up, again, that gear has already been unlocked in the past to go from their previous roles to “All Classes.” Doesn’t look like that’s been done since around level 60 gear sets, so we’re long overdue. It would be the perfect time to unlock everything, say pre-90 if not pre-100, while they’re going through and adding the second dye channels to everything.

    At this point, I’d even settle for a Disciples of War/Disciples of Magic split, which has also been done in the past. But ultimately I would like to see all gear completely unlocked. There’s so many nice crafter/gatherer sets that get so little use due to the restrictions. Keep current expansion gear locked to keep people grinding for it, but imo when each expansion comes out, all prior gear should be unlocked.
    I'd go even further.
    As said there's no reason not to make it wearable by all classes except the devs being lying and lazy.
    As soon as a piece of gear is turned into glamour it should lose all role, job and class restrictions.

    Even if someone in bad faith would say "well why would a tank wear a frilly gown" (which they already do) it's canon glamour doesn't make it actual cloth.

    I am sick and tired of role restricted Glamour. Especially cause only 2 jobs have the type of boots that work for my Arabic Dancer glam that I cna only wear on SMN and DNC (horay.... at least someting)... But also wanna wear as MNK or NIN but can't. Cause nothing even close exists to those 2 boots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViinaS View Post
    I'd go even further.
    As said there's no reason not to make it wearable by all classes except the devs being lying and lazy.
    There's no need for that kind of hostility. We have no idea the complexity of their systems under the hood, but they have often said it can be much harder than expected to make seemingly simple changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    I've said it before and I'll say it again - the excuse pertaining to job/class identity is just that - an excuse. Because when you queue a roulette and find yourself in a team that looks like this:

    It really does make an absolutely mockery of said excuse.
    Let it be known folk in the same appearance trounced the mighty Bahamut, laid Emet Selch low, and single-handedly defeated despair incarnate, ushered in to deliver the very universe into utter emptiness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Let it be known folk in the same appearance trounced the mighty Bahamut, laid Emet Selch low, and single-handedly defeated despair incarnate, ushered in to deliver the very universe into utter emptiness.
    I don't know - in Endsinger's case I suspect seeing a team like that before her would almost certainly have made her sing her song of oblivion even louder!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    There's no need for that kind of hostility. We have no idea the complexity of their systems under the hood, but they have often said it can be much harder than expected to make seemingly simple changes.
    "Spaghetti legacy code" is the excuse we've been hearing for multiple expansions. I'm over it.

    If the ARR devs were so bad at their job that it is now impossible to make changes as simple as 'apply the 'all classes' flag to this piece of gear' without significant effort, then it's time to drop another Dalamud and remake the game.

    No, it's much more likely that SE only wants to commit as minimal attention as possible to FFXIV to maximize profits. Those dead-on-arrival NFT projects and half-baked PS5 games have to be funded somehow.
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    Last edited by NegativeS; 01-07-2025 at 02:08 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    "Spaghetti legacy code" is the excuse we've been hearing for multiple expansions. I'm over it.

    If the ARR devs were so bad at their job that it is now impossible to make changes as simple as 'apply the 'all classes' flag to this piece of gear', then it's time to drop another Dalamud and remake the game.

    No, it's much more likely that SE only wants to commit as minimal attention as possible to FFXIV to maximize profits. Those dead-on-arrival NFT projects and half-baked PS5 games have to be funded somehow.
    Just because you're over it doesn't mean it's not still true. We all know the circumstances under which 2.0 was developed. It's not reasonable to take this attitude.
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