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    AyumiCosplayGlam's Avatar
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    Ayumi Nishimiya
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    Phoenix
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    I agree with this, but I think the issue isn't necessarily to do with the following:


    I think it's more that people have been requesting for a difficulty between normal and extreme for a very long time, and they haven't really been hitting that spot. In fact, they haven't really hit that spot since BA (Maybe also DRS), which was near enough over 6 years ago.

    I think when the original desire for 'harder' 24-man came in, I think a lot of people were expecting a level of difficulty similar to BA, even from those that may have enjoyed this Chaotic specifically.
    Oh trust me i know very well that like 80% of the people who wanted midcore content actually mean the exact same thing you said.

    The missing stepping stone between normal and extreme has been an issue for years and a hell of a lot of people from varying skill level agree with that sentiment.
    Everyone just called it midcore by default because it makes perfect sense.

    The miscommunication was that for some reason Square Enix thinks that 80% of the playerbase is casual and they have to split the remaining 20% between like 15% midcore and 5% hardcore.
    Meanwhile the 80% has way too much of a variety.
    Mahjong Players, RP-ers, Island Sanctuary enjoyers,Crafters, Limsa AFK-ers, story andies, occasional subscribers and people who do literally everything for 6k+ hours in the game except extremes and savage that are still too recent to faceroll unsync are somehow in the same category in their book which is mindblowing.
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    Torashiki's Avatar
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    Torashiki Yatsurugi
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    Trying to make content fun for everyone is the reason that a lot of content isn't fun for anyone. "I want to do firmament but I'm a single dad with 3 jobs and 18 children" is the reason that we got island sanctuary. If you don't enjoy the chaotic alliance raid because it's too hard, it isn't for you. That doesn't mean that it needs to be made easier. It means you need to play different content.

    If you don't think there's enough content in the game that appeals to you, that's a different problem and requires a different solution.
    As a savage raider that cleared M4S by week 4: CAR is not hard mechanics-wise. Its not ''difficult'' content.

    CAR is frustrating, and its all just because:

    - The devs basically lied about it being a 12-24 people content. Its hard coded to be 24 people fight because of a single bodycheck mechanic.

    - NA PF is awful. People leave after a single wipe, people have no idea of how to do mechanics, people join as jobs they cant perform well enough with.

    - The fight has zero requirements, when it should have at least been gated by clearing Speen EX.

    Combine all that and you have a NA PF killer fight that is FORCED to be done in PF. The fight itself is nothing special mechanics-wise. And people know this, and that is why people are getting way more demanding with the requirements, they can and WILL check 3rd party sites to exclude people who have not cleared 20+ times.

    When I spend more time progging PF than doing the fight, its because there are problems.
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    Last edited by Torashiki; 02-24-2025 at 09:59 AM.

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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Oh no, devaluing ego rewards, le gasp.
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    BigCheez's Avatar
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    Cheez Whiz
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Oh no, devaluing ego rewards, le gasp.
    This isn't 9gag.

    It's healthy for an MMO to have aspirational content with unique rewards.
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