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    Infindox's Avatar
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Remove one of the reasons RDM is popular (it's not the theme of its job, duelcast is, but at this point being the "rez mage" might as well be) and remove some of the expression of the role that they seem hellbent on doing to every other job? No thanks.
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    VeyaAkemi's Avatar
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    Veya Akemi
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    Marilith
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    (it's not the theme of its job, duelcast is, but at this point being the "rez mage" might as well be)
    The theme of Red Mage is, historically, to be able to cast both White and Black magic, but not to the same depth as White Mage and Black Mage, Raise is typically a fairly low level spell, with a more powerful higher tier version, occasionally named "Arise", that raises targets at full health(there IS an issue here with Healers never getting an upgraded rez spell, because such a spell doesn't gel with how FFXIV plays), so Red Mage has access to the low level version, with Dualcast being an extra ability to reflect their duality and give them something to make them stand out more than just "jack of all trades" so it can hold up to endgame, it's a balance patch more than anything, just a very logical one that makes sense with how the job flows.

    Having Verraise(and by extension Vercure) is objectively the theme of the job, or more accurately, it is included in the broad umbrella that is its primary theme.
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    Player LibitIncarne's Avatar
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    Libitina Incarne
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    Phantom
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    The theme of Red Mage is, historically, to be able to cast both White and Black magic, but not to the same depth as White Mage and Black Mage, Raise is typically a fairly low level spell, with a more powerful higher tier version, occasionally named "Arise", that raises targets at full health(there IS an issue here with Healers never getting an upgraded rez spell, because such a spell doesn't gel with how FFXIV plays), so Red Mage has access to the low level version, with Dualcast being an extra ability to reflect their duality and give them something to make them stand out more than just "jack of all trades" so it can hold up to endgame, it's a balance patch more than anything, just a very logical one that makes sense with how the job flows.

    Having Verraise(and by extension Vercure) is objectively the theme of the job, or more accurately, it is included in the broad umbrella that is its primary theme.
    I don't see any issues with getting Arise at level 66 or somewhere around there (and preferably with a 1 minute recast for balancing reasons), it'll prevent the stupid deaths that come from someone using an action immediately after being revived but before being healed up a bit and so dying to a raidwide.
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