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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadda View Post
    Midcore is the middle ground—content that offers degrees of challenge, allowing players to invest time without requiring a rigid commitment. Examples include Deep Dungeons, Eureka/Bozja, and Variant Dungeons. These activities can be tackled solo or with friends, offering varied challenges and rewarding players’ time, not just their skill level.
    Eureka/Bozja and variant dungeon require absolutely no investment whatsoever. They're "jump in and play" and content.

    You're absolutely correct that midcore is not a difficulty setting, but a level of investment, but I don't understand how you can go from that to saying that exploration zones and variant dungeon are midcore content when they don't require any prep or organisation. You don't need to be invested in the content whatsoever.

    I guess you could make a case for deep dungeon being midcore because a full clear is a significant undertaking but you can get all the rewards without a full clear and it's super easy for 1 person who knows what to do to carry a group through without even being in VC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    Eureka/Bozja and variant dungeon require absolutely no investment whatsoever. They're "jump in and play" and content.

    You're absolutely correct that midcore is not a difficulty setting, but a level of investment, but I don't understand how you can go from that to saying that exploration zones and variant dungeon are midcore content when they don't require any prep or organisation. You don't need to be invested in the content whatsoever.

    I guess you could make a case for deep dungeon being midcore because a full clear is a significant undertaking but you can get all the rewards without a full clear and it's super easy for 1 person who knows what to do to carry a group through without even being in VC.
    Did you read the rest of the thread? Or even the first post? I mean half of the post talk about how those are an investment, and there was only a dozen post before yours... You're gonna tell me that farming several relics don't require investment, because it's easy to enter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    Did you read the rest of the thread? Or even the first post? I mean, you're gonna tell me that farming several relics don't require investment, because it's easy to enter?
    You don't need to finish a single relic weapon to engage with the content in a meaningful way. Most players haven't completed every sidequest. Are sidequests midcore content? Most players don't have the big fish title. Is fishing hardcore? The King/Queen Bean title is incredibly rare. I guess Fall Guys is hardcore content too.

    This is a very strange way to go about slapping labels on things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    You don't need to finish a single relic weapon to engage with the content in a meaningful way. Most players haven't completed every sidequest. Are sidequests midcore content? Most players don't have the big fish title. Is fishing hardcore? The King/Queen Bean title is incredibly rare. I guess Fall Guys is hardcore content too.

    This is a very strange way to go about slapping labels on things.
    If you read the post litterally two posts above yours, you'd have seen that my point is "doing Eureka (or bozja) once for the story (maybe one relic) is casual territory, farming it to get several/all of them" is midcore territory. What matter is how you engage with that content : the same content can be casual or midcore depending of you engage with it. This has nothing to do with the rarety. No side quest aren't midcore or hardcore, it's casual content, the fact people don't do them is because they buffed the xp of msq so much they are useless, and most of them are unintersting. Yes Fishing can be midcore, if you try to get every fish out there, even the hard to get. No Fall Guy title isn't, because the rarity is due to the fact it's not a permanent event.

    The whole point of the thread is about not sticking labels depending of type of content but how people (have the possibility to) interact with said content : that's how exploratory zone can be considered as midcore. If the same content was once and never again, it would be casual. Please don't try to put word in my mouth when you clearly didn't read the thread.
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    Last edited by CNitsah; 01-12-2025 at 01:12 AM.