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  1. #11
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    Polaritie's Avatar
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    Rose Wilde
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    in the end it is SE'S fault for making the fight so punishing that one mistake can wipe 24 people, it is only natural that people want to filter out bad players, or you jsut waste your time trying to kill the boss.
    It's a ridiculous step up from extremes or other stuff. I feel like it's a lot worse than previous 24-man "hard" content like DRS or BA? It just cascades failure SO fast to a wipe that it feels like you don't even get to practice a mechanic unless people are perfectly resolving everything up to it.

    The fact that you basically have to have everyone alive at the end of p1 to even get to play p2 at all is a massive wall to learning the phase (and p1 can just delete everyone anyways if too many people - or any tanks at all - are dead for Rapid-Sequence Particle Beam)
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  2. #12
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    Arohk's Avatar
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Polaritie View Post
    any tanks at all - are dead for Rapid-Sequence Particle Beam)
    The more you Know-

    If one tank of a party is dead, another can tank all 3 beams with invul.
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  3. #13
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    Besame's Avatar
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    Calista Fallon
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Back in vanilla WoW we began dungeons with 40-person groups often within our guilds but sometimes later on, not. Sometimes these new dungeons took several days to complete but they were fun and showed comradery. I can never remember one time anyone being told they could not come nor they did not have the experience. Players welcomed all and we learned the new, more difficult content together. Personally, I have no inclination to do content where groups would act that way so it's fine but IMO, it could be TOS problematic for those that are being treated badly while trying to explore new content. Things are not the same in these games, this one is one of the worst for friendly difficult content running. "Man's inhumanity against man" but it wasn't always this way.
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    "Fanboy is gaming jargon used to describe an individual that has gone beyond the point of being a PC or console game fan and, during online chats or discussions, shifts to defend the program at all costs, unable to take any criticism or acknowledge any shortcomings of the game or gaming console."

  4. #14
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    Arohk's Avatar
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    Back in vanilla WoW we began dungeons with 40-person groups often within our guilds but sometimes later on, not.
    Now compare the boss mechanics of vanilla WoW to modern FFXIV.
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  5. #15
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    Calista Fallon
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Now compare the boss mechanics of vanilla WoW to modern FFXIV.
    Not comparing the mechanics, just the mindset of those playing now vs back when it was fun.
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    "Fanboy is gaming jargon used to describe an individual that has gone beyond the point of being a PC or console game fan and, during online chats or discussions, shifts to defend the program at all costs, unable to take any criticism or acknowledge any shortcomings of the game or gaming console."

  6. #16
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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    The more you Know-

    If one tank of a party is dead, another can tank all 3 beams with invul.
    Underrated information. This essentially allows you to handle the tank requirements for soaking the beams with just two tanks standing at her face using invulns.
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  7. #17
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    Arohk's Avatar
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Underrated information. This essentially allows you to handle the tank requirements for soaking the beams with just two tanks standing at her face using invulns.
    in theory yes, but if you got less than 3 tanks alive, the boss will kill your party with auto attacks.
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  8. #18
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Riletz View Post
    Hundreds of Cloud of Darkness PFs have formed and filled in the past week or so with this line of text: "10+ clears, will check."
    There is no achievement for clear counts higher than 1, and they are not lying (give it a try, you'll get kicked). We all know what this is and how it's done. Very simple question then. Is it okay or not?
    Last I checked, you can't kick grey parsers from Savage PFs. It's considered harassment. Yet somehow this is fine? It's hard to turn a blind eye when the problem is bright as the sun, Square Enix. Even Crystal's posting these PFs. Weigh in already.
    to answer your question yes people are doing such don't be scared to report them too
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  9. #19
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    Balmung_Griffin's Avatar
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    Balmung Griffin
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Truth is, this wouldn't happen if people were honest about their prog level and since you can't check that, it's expected that people would find a way.
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