Why does Cure 1 not become Cure 2?

[Azurarok]

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Learning that cast times exist isn't a bad thing for a Sorcerer role. When trying to run from a target perhaps it'd help if they had a skill that stopped them in their tracks, or knocked them back. Would be even better if it did some damage. If only.

For chasing a tank with an instant cast you have aero, regen, and aetherial shift. If that's not enough I'd rather they give Thin Air an instant cast effect and/or shorten PoM's recast to 60s for more GlareIVs.

WHM and AST also both have several powerful oGCDs that allow them to heal right after being revived. MP management's just not really a concern with all the free healing tools we have.

I personally really don't want WHM to have a raid buff to keep it differentiated from AST, even with a sustained type like that, and also to keep it mirrored with BLM. Also, while this game has extendable buffs/debuffs, they don't have extendable HoTs/DoTs so I'm led to believe there's some limitation that's keeping them from doing those. Although, did Time Dilation allow HoTs to be extended too?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Old Celestial Opposition were usually mentioned when it comes to extendable HoTs from the past. They were super effective when used in conjunction with AST's HoT.

[Connor]

I personally really don't want WHM to have a raid buff to keep it differentiated from AST, even with a sustained type like that, and also to keep it mirrored with BLM. Also, while this game has extendable buffs/debuffs, they don't have extendable HoTs/DoTs so I'm led to believe there's some limitation that's keeping them from doing those. Although, did Time Dilation allow HoTs to be extended too?

From what I remember Time Dilation worked on any buffs the Astrologian cast. So not only would it affect cards but it extended Aspected Benefic from Diurnal, shields from Nocturnal, hell I think even Stoneskin and Protect technically got the extension (not that you’d ever use it for those lol). So while they’re not around anymore, having ‘HoTs with a manipulate-able (for want of a better word lol) duration’ is definitely possible. Or, it was anyway.

I feel like being able to play around with timer durations both helped differentiate AST and WHM and helped reinforce the ‘time/space magic’ aesthetic it had originally. So it could be a good way to differentiate them in future. I.E Aspected Benefic becomes much weaker than Regen but the effect can be extended to last longer or condensed to equal its strength? (Not a literal example so idk what the exact potencies would have to be just spitballing lol) ‘Timer stuff for the time mage’ makes sense I think maybe lol

[Carighan]

Interesting idea though I wonder how compensation for the heal oGCDs lost for that (since it'd be 2 new buttons to add) would work. What would get the axe?

I mean sure, could easily cut out oGCD versions of GCD heals we have, assuming that the base duration is increased and can be increased further, since you'd need it less often, then marginally raise Malefic potency to compensate the overall damage loss from spending an extra GCD on a heal here or there. So maybe remove Celestial Intersection and Celestial Opposition, add single target shields to Synastry instead (say it also copies oGCD/regen healing now, which causes shields, while direct casted heals cause healing?), use the two buttons for Time Dilation and Time Compression, which affect everything in an X radius around the AST, either extending all current AST-based effects by N% or compressing them by M% but increasing potency by a non-equivalent (i.e. beneficial) amount?

[Sindal]

Personal opinion:

Cure 1 upgrades to cure 2.
Cast time remains the same but only gets a potency boost of maybe 150 (instead of the 300 between thr current cure 1 and 2)

Cement it as your dedicated "oops I'm out of lilies" emwrgency heal.

Gain solus somewhere between 30 and 50.

Gain rapture at the level uou would have gains solus

[Arohk]

like most other healers get an upgrade to their healing spells.. but Cure 1 and 2 remain seperate... why?

To confuse new players in thinking, Cure1 has a use after ~lvl 30

Freecure.



AST has their own version of it.

even with 100% procc chance instead of 15%, it would still be bad to use Cure 1 (unless you are completly out of MP)

[Iedarus]

Anytime I'm tanking and I see a Whm fishing Freecure in endgame content, I die a little inside.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Anytime I'm tanking and I see a Whm fishing Freecure in endgame content, I die a little inside.

That’s when you decide to reduce the amount of defensive cooldowns or use none at all so they’ll hopefully realize the futility of their method—or rather, nothing happens either way because spamming Cure I while ignoring Freecure is literally enough cure potency for tanks to survive in almost any wall pulls, unfortunately. Been there before.

[Arohk]

That’s when you decide to reduce the amount of defensive cooldowns or use none at all so they’ll hopefully realize the futility of their method—or rather, nothing happens either way because spamming Cure I while ignoring Freecure is literally enough cure potency for tanks to survive in almost any wall pulls, unfortunately. Been there before.

they should learn to spam Holy instead of Cure 1.

[Zakuyia]

You know cure 1 should evolve into cure 2 and using cure 2 has a chance to prok a free heal