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    Hallarem's Avatar
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    Hallarem Aurealis
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Meaningful story, actual character writing, drama, conflict that matters and is nuanced, characters that make sense and react like actual people would = Liked character.


    SE story-room: "But how about.. we replace all that with MORE EXPOSURE AND DIALOGUE and make her yell "I want to protect your smiles and papas peace" like Naruto or any common shonen protag! A million times over, because the audience wont get her flimsy motivation otherwise! They need to remind you of it every damn cutscene" "Yeaah!" "Give this man a raise!"

    Its like they looked at what people liked about the story before and went "Nah fam, they like that kind of stuff. Less of that"


    I still have this tinfoil hat theory about Yoshi P crying about it being too dark and gloomy lately and him wanting a break from it, so he directed this happy go lucky mess that doesnt make any sense in the worldbuilding.
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    Rui Aii
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    Summoner Lv 80
    it is funny but not surprised
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    Gunz Mcbeetz
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyReaper View Post
    Brother, you're getting all pissy about the objectively worst character in the game, it's quite funny.

    You are absolutely allowed to say what you think but you are blind, do you not see why there is "months old threads" about Wuk Lamat? Is it cause maybe she's boring? Cause maybe she feels forced? And the graph is goofy because... It shows that she has talked more in 6 months than characters that have been in the game for 11 years?

    People don't like her for good reason, she is unlikeable, and FORCED, which is worse than the former.
    This is about as egotistical as it gets. Your opinion is indeed subjective and you are deliberately deflecting your 'pissy' attitude at them because they won't agree with your poor obsession with a genuinely positive character. Does Thancred have a goofy little laugh when lahabrea possesses him? Sure, does it invoke feelings of fury? No, I just copy it and make my friends laugh. But negativity will always get more traction. So keep on burning guy who doesn't like DEI. What's wrong with diversity by the way lol.
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    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Jessa Marko
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    Adamantoise
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunz_Zbestest View Post
    This is about as egotistical as it gets. Your opinion is indeed subjective and you are deliberately deflecting your 'pissy' attitude at them because they won't agree with your poor obsession with a genuinely positive character. Does Thancred have a goofy little laugh when lahabrea possesses him? Sure, does it invoke feelings of fury? No, I just copy it and make my friends laugh. But negativity will always get more traction. So keep on burning guy who doesn't like DEI. What's wrong with diversity by the way lol.
    There's a growing trend on these boards for some posters to claim that their opinions are "objectively" true.
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    Nihility's Avatar
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    I have a feeling I'd probably have grown to dislike her even if she was written well. It was apparently 10+ years of dialogue in a month

    but then considering her entire character arc is the first line of the pokemon opening theme...
    and they did the poochy thing from the simpsons where whenever shes not around everyone else is just "where's poochy? "i wonder what poochy is up to?"
    kind of gets even more crazy to think about when you realize there's a pretty huge chunk where she's gone and your following erenville's story so all that dialogue is actually only like 3/4 of one expansion


    WoL being heavily used makes perfect sense.
    Characters addressing you directly isn't really something that can be compared
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    ReynTime's Avatar
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    Princess Walk
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    I have a feeling I'd probably have grown to dislike her even if she was written well. It was apparently 10+ years of dialogue in a month

    but then considering her entire character arc is the first line of the pokemon opening theme...
    and they did the poochy thing from the simpsons where whenever shes not around everyone else is just "where's poochy? "i wonder what poochy is up to?"
    kind of gets even more crazy to think about when you realize there's a pretty huge chunk where she's gone and your following erenville's story so all that dialogue is actually only like 3/4 of one expansion


    WoL being heavily used makes perfect sense.
    Characters addressing you directly isn't really something that can be compared
    Funny that you mention that. Because forget Naruto, Wuk Lamat is "Ashelia Ketchum" in terms of writing.

    Sun & Moon generation Ashelia Ketchum even.
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    Gigileo Hihileo
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 62
    But where is WoL on this list? Does nodding with our prodigious muscular neck muscles count??
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    AnnRam's Avatar
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    Mizuru Goh
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Don't worry, since the writers already have the story done with DT, Wuk Lamat will be getting more protagonist than ever.
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 50
    Don't worry, there's still a very good chance we can pump up those numbers and put her at #1 where she belongs.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    I'd like to add that according to the Reddit post comments. The term 'lines' refer to every dialogue in-game. Including Main quests, side quests, seasonal quests, NPCs dialogues, etc.... and not just the MSQ dialogue only, which I believe makes this even more disastrous.
    The list they give of their dialogue sources is "2.0 to 7.1 MSQ, Alliance Raids, Job Quests, Seasonal Events, and Collaboration Events".

    This seems to be missing a number of elements that might tip back the balance somewhat: trials, normal raids and other similar side stories such as Eureka (if they are not using "alliance raids" as a catch-all), chatting with characters between objectives (which may be attached to the NPC rather than the quest) and dungeon voiceovers and trusts.
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