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    Quote Originally Posted by NamiRocket View Post
    My man, there is an entire months old thread dedicated to whinging about Wuk Lamat and they've been talking about the goofy graph you just posted in there.
    Good, it's good that people have been talking about it, I did not see that. But there is a reason people are talking about it, it's not a "dead horse" if it comes to the game's quality dropping substantially, we pay 11 Euro a month, by the way. It's only right we can say what we think. If there is "months old threads dedicated to whinging about Wuk Lamat", maybe there's a reason for that. And why is the graph goofy? Because it shows how bad and forced of a character she is? Lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyReaper View Post
    It's only right we can say what we think.
    I apologize. I was unaware that me telling you what I think is tantamount to me preventing you from saying what you think. I'm always surprised when someone tells me I have the power to do that. I feel like such a supervillain.

    Please, continue thinking and saying what you want. I'll try to stop saying what I think, because I guess that's only allowed when I agree with you.
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    Not to be harsh but isn’t this irrelevant unless a word count of each expansion is done and compared to Dawntrail’s writing? We currently have no evidence to suggest that isn’t a commonality amongst every expansion lol (I bet in Stormblood everyone’s top used word will be ‘Zenos’ or ‘Lyse’. In Heavensward it’ll be ‘Nidhogg’, etc).
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  5. 01-08-2025 11:51 PM
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    Brother, you're getting all pissy about the objectively worst character in the game, it's quite funny.

    You are absolutely allowed to say what you think but you are blind, do you not see why there is "months old threads" about Wuk Lamat? Is it cause maybe she's boring? Cause maybe she feels forced? And the graph is goofy because... It shows that she has talked more in 6 months than characters that have been in the game for 11 years?

    People don't like her for good reason, she is unlikeable, and FORCED, which is worse than the former.
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    Wuk Lamat has more lines than Y'shtola and ...Urianger?

    Verily, this doth strike me as wholly unacceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    Interesting how Wuk Lamat has comparable percentage of total lines to Alphinaud in HW, both little more than 20%. But DT also has more than twice the total line count to HW, no doubt contributing to the feeling of overexposure some players feel towards her.

    I'm surprised that DT has so fewer lines than EW.
    Hw has 5912 lines of dialogue.
    That means if we compare entire HW MSQ to Wuk Lamats yapping 3077

    Wuk Lamat has half the lines of every character in all of HW.

    Also if we take ARR which is 50 levels it takes all 6 Scions including Minfilia AND Alphinaud to arrive at a number close to Wuk Lamats blabbering.


    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Not to be harsh but isn’t this irrelevant unless a word count of each expansion is done and compared to Dawntrail’s writing? We currently have no evidence to suggest that isn’t a commonality amongst every expansion lol (I bet in Stormblood everyone’s top used word will be ‘Zenos’ or ‘Lyse’. In Heavensward it’ll be ‘Nidhogg’, etc).
    I also don't know why OP didn't link it and put up the pictures, but

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...rom_arr_20_to/

    He did all that. Nothing we have seen comes even close to Wuk Lamat
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    Last edited by ViinaS; 01-08-2025 at 11:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamiRocket View Post
    Ooo, ooo, I wanna quote my post multiple times with the same response, too! It looks like fun!



    Why can't we talk about it? Why is it goofy!? It's only right we get to talk about it! It's a real problem and Japan needs to know about it!
    Japan needs to know about it because that's the forums the devs read the most, it is a KNOWN fact.
    You're quite funny I'll give you that, I'll even give you my respect for defending your apparently favourite character, however she is hated with good reason and I'm afraid it is a 1 man war you're fighting. But keep on keeping on, soldier. Keep on thinking we can't criticise the objective decline of the game's quality for whatever reason me boy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViinaS View Post
    Hw has 5912 lines of dialogue.
    That means if we compare entire HW MSQ to Wuk Lamats yapping 3077

    Wuk Lamat has half the lines of every character in all of HW.

    Also if we take ARR which is 50 levels it takes all 6 Scions including Minfilia AND Alphinaud to arrive at a number close to Wuk Lamats blabbering.




    I also don't know why OP didn't link it and put up the pictures, but

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...rom_arr_20_to/

    He did all that. Nothing we have seen comes even close to Wuk Lamat
    My bad like I said I wasn't sure if I could put links or not lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyReaper View Post
    You're quite funny I'll give you that, I'll even give you my respect for defending your apparently favourite character, however she is hated with good reason and I'm afraid it is a 1 man war you're fighting.
    Wuk Lamat isn't even in my top five. No one is taking G'raha's or Alisaie's place up there for me.

    I'm just also not a whiny child who is still crying over a perfectly innocuous video game character half a year later. You're not bringing anything new to the table. CS3 already knows how people feel about the character and have discussed it. You're also not acknowledging how the scripts and cut scenes for these expansions get longer and longer as time goes on, making a comparison like this skewed in favor of a particular argument. Or how a name being said isn't actually indicative of very much.

    But go off, queen! The world needs to know! Again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViinaS View Post


    I also don't know why OP didn't link it and put up the pictures, but

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...rom_arr_20_to/

    He did all that. Nothing we have seen comes even close to Wuk Lamat
    Isn’t that in terms of ‘how much they speak’ and not ‘what they’re speaking about?’. Looks to me like Dawntrail literally just CTRL+F’d ‘Wol’ and replaced it with ‘Wuk Lamat’. Every expansion ‘WoL’ is mentioned around 240-260 times(except ARR where it’s mention a whole 610 times lol), then in Dawntrail ‘Wuk Lamat’ is mentioned around 260 times.
    So if we’re unhappy that ‘people are all talking about her’ shouldn’t be also be unhappy at how often they talk about us over other characters? Like, I’d say this has been a problem with their writing since the start.

    If the argument is ‘Wuk Lamat is too important’ or whatever then uh yeah, there’s quite a few threads about that already. We already know writers done an objectively awful job.
    we also know Yoshi has specifically said she’s coming back for more development in future lol
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