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  1. #11
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    Dantes Leonhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockworks View Post
    But the congestion ! The servers are full and they cant handle anymore people !

    https://steamcharts.com/app/39210
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    Luckybancho showing over 400 000 players left the game

    Yet Aether and Balmung apparently are "congested".

    It honestly is time for the community as a whole to push SE to stop this congestion nonsense, the servers arent full nor congested, Aether isnt full, Balmung isnt full, all of Aether almost is open for transfer, Balmung was open not long ago for transfer, stop the hypocrisy SE.

    Oh wait this is made to force people to transfer so they can make money off of it. Nevermind then, typical SE.

    Just a small edit : The community is just as much as fault as SE, the fact we barely had one thread that reached 20 pages or so since DT was released, and that barely anyone complains about this is ridiculous, the community itself should do better and push them to remove those absolutely ridiculous restrictions, but yet here we are.
    Almost half a million players left the game but you aren't really taking who left and who stayed into account. Aether and Balmung are the "community designated" raider and RP hub respectfully, two communities which are far from being deprived on content this expansion so far.

    The community may be at fault but has nothing to do with the lack of complaints you're claiming there is, it's moreso the fact that everyone wants to flock to specific worlds for these specific things and leave other worlds (especially when it comes to pf activity) to dust, and this has already been an issue since DC travel was introduced. The congestion just feels more apparent now because the plethora of casuals that make up the numbers of leaving players are, well, leaving these other worlds behind. As far-fetched as it may be, I feel as if being locked out of playing with friends on Aether/Balmung may have contributed to the amount of casuals that left as well, if it's not lack of content those people are worried about.
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    Last edited by lucatracy; 01-08-2025 at 02:02 PM. Reason: block of text begone

  2. #12
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockworks View Post
    Or they are forcing people to transfer to those worlds to make money.
    If SE really wanted to endlessly chase money they'd do stuff more like Blizzard has done. People give them too much credit. It's a lot more to do with slow or incompetent development than anything else.

    Just like how people claim the housing issues are a way for them to make money by keeping people subscribed. That's giving them credit for something that clearly isn't the case. They just haven't managed to make unlimited housing when literally every other MMORPG manages it because they couldn't manage to code it within the constraints of their self-imposed infrastructure setup.

    If they wanted people to pay to transfer worlds that badly they'd probably not have made DC travel or world visit in the first place.
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  3. #13
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    Will Irishclover
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    This is them attempting to put the genie back into the bottle, IMO they realised cross data centre travel was a hilarious mistake, and they cant reverse it without causing more uproar so they have to do this very inbetween soft lock

    DC travel was in my opinion, implemented too hastily, and the dev team didin't really realise the impact it would have on certain DCs, it basically destroyed dynamis.
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  4. #14
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    Meridia Astra
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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyeria View Post
    I'm sorry. I can't tell if this is trolling or serious, but regardless this is not a solution. Not to mention - even at 3-5 am I'm unable to get on most worlds in Aether, it's not viable anyway. They need to fix this properly. Also the worlds can't be that congested if they're allowing you to make new characters on those worlds.
    Until recently, I had to transfer to Aether before 9am EST. After the change in congestion, I've been able to transfer any time during the day with no issues (since I transfer to different DC for Chaotic farming).
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  5. #15
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    People still don't understand how the restriction works.
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  6. #16
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    Namissa Minami
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    I still find it utterly baffling that they released the feature, let people make friends, communities, statics with people from other servers and data centers (within the same region) and then they just take it all away by putting on these arbitrary restrictions, making it such a pain to play with the friends you might have made before, while travel to everywhere was open and there were no issues. It feels almost malicious, though I guess it's more likely it's just the devs's total incompetence showing once again.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillIrishclover View Post
    This is them attempting to put the genie back into the bottle, IMO they realised cross data centre travel was a hilarious mistake, and they cant reverse it without causing more uproar so they have to do this very inbetween soft lock

    DC travel was in my opinion, implemented too hastily, and the dev team didin't really realise the impact it would have on certain DCs, it basically destroyed dynamis.
    I'm surprised we didn't get cross DC PF yet.

    Chaos is 'dead', our PF has been dead for a long while now. I recently caved in, growing tired of being stubborn and not wanting to abandon my DC and went to PF on Light. And honestly? Why would anyone want to return back to their home DC? I certainly didn't for a few days. EU is much smaller than NA and I think the issue might just be alot worse on bigger DCs. If everyone left their DC to visit the raid DC, might as well just merge data centers somehow...But who knows.
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    Eyestrain thread - https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/501914-Dawntrail-Graphics-Update-Eye-Strain

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rueby View Post
    I'm surprised we didn't get cross DC PF yet.
    It's mainly because, depending on the extent of the implementation, it is complicated from a technical perspective. The fact we have World Visit and DC Travel at all is a brave and risky thing they did. If they had done a single thing wrong, player data could have been lost and it's possible some of this could have been permanent or taken ages to recover like it did with the first housing lottery or when they disbanded a lot of CWLS by accident.

    Although we probably only need it within-region, data centers can technically be in different regions and that technicality on its own makes it complicated, because data centers are setup to be independent from eachother.

    I'm pretty sure they are exploring it, but for these reasons I wouldn't expect them to do it suddenly without extensive planning and testing.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    It's mainly because, depending on the extent of the implementation, it is complicated from a technical perspective. The fact we have World Visit and DC Travel at all is a brave and risky thing they did. If they had done a single thing wrong, player data could have been lost and it's possible some of this could have been permanent or taken ages to recover like it did with the first housing lottery or when they disbanded a lot of CWLS by accident.

    Although we probably only need it within-region, data centers can technically be in different regions and that technicality on its own makes it complicated, because data centers are setup to be independent from eachother.

    I'm pretty sure they are exploring it, but for these reasons I wouldn't expect them to do it suddenly without extensive planning and testing.
    I really hope so, I'm wondering if it's possible to merge data centers the way they were splitting data centers up, like I know initially there was no Light and we got seperated. I'm guessing there's also a technical limitation with how many players/servers can be on one DC before it starts causing problems...?

    I was thinking about it and honestly I think if they found a way to merge DCs or make a mega DC they won't have to think of a cross DC PF? But I don't know anything techy, I'm sure if it was that easy they probably would've done it. It's just frustrating still...
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    Eyestrain thread - https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/501914-Dawntrail-Graphics-Update-Eye-Strain

  10. #20
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    Wait, do some people really think that the housing system isn't designed to keep people subbed? Very good job, Square. You guys are amazing at making FFXIV fans believe in your product.
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