Thread: The issue with Dawntrail and importance of 8.0

Most of the issues that people have surrounding content lifecycle this expansion has just been completely magnified by how accessible the last relic was. In SB/ShB, you typically weren't getting all of the relics before the expansion ended unless you were severely dedicating yourself to it.

By comparison the previous expansions relics in no way, shape, or form deviate from how people consume content in the subsequent expansion. Do your roulettes, and you have a relic step waiting for you courtesy of Tomestones. Assuming the next exploration zone is actually substantive, then I can honestly see the next expansion not being as bad simply because people will still have things to do. Granted, I don't think it's spectacular design. But the issue here around content is nothing new really.

If they continually demolish the story, then I think it would absolutely be bad.

I would like for them to actually deviate from their usual lifecycle, try something new, if some players don't like it then stand your ground, and continue to refine it. It's like the developers are trying to simplify and reduce everything as much as humanly possible because they're so afraid, and they don't realize this is what's slowly turning people away. It's slowly turned me away, and I'm completely turned away from the enjoyment with crafting. It ain't HW no more.. Your game isn't going to die if you try something new. the players aren't going to implode.

Too late.

7.0 was that breakpoint. And it turned out being bad. So, no faith for 8.0, that will just continue what is happening in DT.

It's best already begin playing another game. 2025 will have interesting game releases.

Originally Posted by miraidensetsu

Too late.

7.0 was that breakpoint. And it turned out being bad. So, no faith for 8.0, that will just continue what is happening in DT.

It's best already begin playing another game. 2025 will have interesting game releases.

A great deal will depend on whether or not they listen/pay attention to the various forms of feedback they've been receiving.

Originally Posted by miraidensetsu

Too late.

7.0 was that breakpoint. And it turned out being bad. So, no faith for 8.0, that will just continue what is happening in DT.

It's best already begin playing another game. 2025 will have interesting game releases.

While 7.0 was bad I wouldn't say it being a breaking point.
I considered 8.0 a breaking point cause if 8.0 fails we will most likely see a big drop in players, sub numbers and since FFXIV is a major cashcow for SE if FFXIV nosedives in profits it may crash SE.
Right now people are still begrudgingly hanging on.
But if they fumble 8.0 I think we will se an Exodus of players.

I could be wrong though and if 7.2 falls flat and the zone is trash, not linked to relic grind and relics being tomestones again it could happen sooner.

Even if they take in the criticism, changes impacted by it all very likely wont even happen by 8.0. So yeah... unless they decide to throw a ton of devs into FFXIV all of the sudden, their current development cycle wont see the much needed changes by 8.0... all we know currently is there are changes to jobs coming 8.0, this very likely WONT have much if any intaken from 7.0+ complaints, its a pre-planned change...

Guys, we aren't at 7.2 at this time. Hyping up 8.0 and riding on it is waaaay too soon.

Originally Posted by Absurdity

They're hyping up 8.0 because there isn't much else to do.

Sure it's not even 7.2 but believing that we are seeing any changes to their "content pipeline" in any 7.X is complete copium. They have never done so in any previous expansion and the situation isn't nearly dire enough yet for them to finally get their heads out of the sand.

If we haven't seen any change yet why does anyone think they'd change it for 8.0?

Originally Posted by Lilapop

If we haven't seen any change yet why does anyone think they'd change it for 8.0?

That's mostly copium as well.

We know nothing is going to change in this expansion, so people hold out hope that 8.0 will finally bring that change, maybe because they always planned for that to happen or because it gets bad enough in the meantime that they have to emergency course correct.

Originally Posted by Absurdity

That's mostly copium as well.

We know nothing is going to change in this expansion, so people hold out hope that 8.0 will finally bring that change, maybe because they always planned for that to happen or because it gets bad enough in the meantime that they have to emergency course correct.

"Any opinion I don't share is copium." Strange take.

Ironically, the actual copium sounds like they'd suddenly break their tested, tried, and true formula they've had since heavensward. But the day you'd acknowledge your own opinion as copium would be true Absurdity.